Comments on: Europe: The Dangerous Rise Of Anti-Islam Far-Right http://newsjunkiepost.com/2009/12/01/europe-the-dangerous-rise-of-anti-islam-far-right/ News, Politics, And Opinion From Around The Globe Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:39:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Val Gorsky http://newsjunkiepost.com/2009/12/01/europe-the-dangerous-rise-of-anti-islam-far-right/comment-page-1/#comment-2456 Val Gorsky Wed, 09 Dec 2009 01:42:53 +0000 http://newsjunkiepost.com/?p=8164#comment-2456 Tell that to the women and students in Iran. Tell that to the women and students in Iran.

]]> By: ross http://newsjunkiepost.com/2009/12/01/europe-the-dangerous-rise-of-anti-islam-far-right/comment-page-1/#comment-2452 ross Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:25:20 +0000 http://newsjunkiepost.com/?p=8164#comment-2452 Hi, just a completely average, run-of-the-mill, A-level educated person here, I hold no positions of delegated authority, nor do I vote. I am a white englishman and i am abhorrently angry at my country ( or should i say the country my grandfather and his ancestors fought many an invasion for). I just wanted to say that I have many multi-cultural friends and a few relatives which are not of white british origin. I have a career choice that lends me time to many political and celebrity personalities and what i have to say regarding the whole religious debate does center on the media fronted values and the personal....should i say undisclosed remarks behind doors. This country is a council bedset for anyone that has not accrued any type of educative, moral standing or legal educative learnings. It seems that as long as you can make it to the shores of great britain you can live here. I work a high pressure job that mainly is set within building sites. Now; when i'm dealing with over a 10000 volts of electricity i expect to be able to talk to any body that is on the same site as me to hopefully gain life saving information. Unfortunately when im the only person that speaks the language of this country I have to amble my way around a problem and hope for the best. Why is this legal??? I doubt anybody in parliament ever has to demonstrate what there trying to say with hand gestures and diagrams. I know many secrets that I have been divulged to me by people of 'high moral standings' that without trust would make front page news. Yet it seems that a public oppinion when the public is not your own to me seems mute. Its disgusted me to see someone express sheer hate at muslim communities over a beer. Then praise them the next day on TV. Every person that people deem as middle or lower class that has white origin in this country is unhappy!!! But that doesnt matter because we're aiming for a more tollerent society. Not one person in the manual working sector(i refuse to say labour) of this country that is of white origin agrees with any political party that forwards itself to our choice. In fact it seems that anybody that is not muslim disagrees with islam, anybody that is from a different european country from the next hate each other, jews disagree with catholics, muslims dont like christians etc etc. seriously i had a russian guy talking to me on site, saying that he hates the fact the hungarians are taking all his work!!! When will this country learn that politicians will never have our greatest hopes and dreams in mind because they do not live on the same planet as us. They have never set foot in the same bars, the same streets or the same schools as us. They sit behind a barrier of desk and paper calculating the statistics because that is what people like me are to them, a statistic. We are never gonna be the multi-cultural society that the government envisions. I honestly believe that there are going to be sectors in this country with divisions between ethnicity in the long run. There are areas in Slough i wouldn't dream of walking through because i am white. These areas are patrolled by anti christian, muslim extremists that to the naked eye you would never see. however when you have a car pull up next to you shouting for you to leave you don't think twice. I have a friend that was stabbed by a eastern european because he went into a polish shop for a coke. The fact I cant hang my flag anymore or see my daughter in a nativity play states that we are going mad to be tolerant. In fact though we can learn about the muslim profits in school though. I don't want my daughter learning of a society of people who do not take the views of women as equal. Put my rant down to pure ignorance if you see it that way but there is plenty more i could say. Im just glad my grand parents aren't around anymore to see what they have fought so hard for go to waste. There is no possible solution for all the trouble the government has invited here by letting our revolving doors turn but theres no doubt ill have to deal with it in some way. I am literally scared for my daughters future because there is no deviding lines between societies now. For some there is no right or wrong. Hi,
just a completely average, run-of-the-mill, A-level educated person here, I hold no positions of delegated authority, nor do I vote. I am a white englishman and i am abhorrently angry at my country ( or should i say the country my grandfather and his ancestors fought many an invasion for).
I just wanted to say that I have many multi-cultural friends and a few relatives which are not of white british origin.
I have a career choice that lends me time to many political and celebrity personalities and what i have to say regarding the whole religious debate does center on the media fronted values and the personal….should i say undisclosed remarks behind doors.
This country is a council bedset for anyone that has not accrued any type of educative, moral standing or legal educative learnings. It seems that as long as you can make it to the shores of great britain you can live here.
I work a high pressure job that mainly is set within building sites. Now; when i’m dealing with over a 10000 volts of electricity i expect to be able to talk to any body that is on the same site as me to hopefully gain life saving information. Unfortunately when im the only person that speaks the language of this country I have to amble my way around a problem and hope for the best. Why is this legal??? I doubt anybody in parliament ever has to demonstrate what there trying to say with hand gestures and diagrams.
I know many secrets that I have been divulged to me by people of ‘high moral standings’ that without trust would make front page news.
Yet it seems that a public oppinion when the public is not your own to me seems mute. Its disgusted me to see someone express sheer hate at muslim communities over a beer. Then praise them the next day on TV.
Every person that people deem as middle or lower class that has white origin in this country is unhappy!!! But that doesnt matter because we’re aiming for a more tollerent society. Not one person in the manual working sector(i refuse to say labour) of this country that is of white origin agrees with any political party that forwards itself to our choice. In fact it seems that anybody that is not muslim disagrees with islam, anybody that is from a different european country from the next hate each other, jews disagree with catholics, muslims dont like christians etc etc. seriously i had a russian guy talking to me on site, saying that he hates the fact the hungarians are taking all his work!!!
When will this country learn that politicians will never have our greatest hopes and dreams in mind because they do not live on the same planet as us. They have never set foot in the same bars, the same streets or the same schools as us. They sit behind a barrier of desk and paper calculating the statistics because that is what people like me are to them, a statistic.
We are never gonna be the multi-cultural society that the government envisions. I honestly believe that there are going to be sectors in this country with divisions between ethnicity in the long run. There are areas in Slough i wouldn’t dream of walking through because i am white. These areas are patrolled by anti christian, muslim extremists that to the naked eye you would never see. however when you have a car pull up next to you shouting for you to leave you don’t think twice.
I have a friend that was stabbed by a eastern european because he went into a polish shop for a coke.
The fact I cant hang my flag anymore or see my daughter in a nativity play states that we are going mad to be tolerant. In fact though we can learn about the muslim profits in school though. I don’t want my daughter learning of a society of people who do not take the views of women as equal.
Put my rant down to pure ignorance if you see it that way but there is plenty more i could say. Im just glad my grand parents aren’t around anymore to see what they have fought so hard for go to waste. There is no possible solution for all the trouble the government has invited here by letting our revolving doors turn but theres no doubt ill have to deal with it in some way.
I am literally scared for my daughters future because there is no deviding lines between societies now. For some there is no right or wrong.

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]]> By: Terance http://newsjunkiepost.com/2009/12/01/europe-the-dangerous-rise-of-anti-islam-far-right/comment-page-1/#comment-2421 Terance Mon, 07 Dec 2009 03:29:11 +0000 http://newsjunkiepost.com/?p=8164#comment-2421 What's so horrible about the Swiss people not wanting Islam in their country? Islamic countries wouldn't allow a bunch of Swiss people to come in and expect their cultural views to be catered to. My father is from Iran, you don't see Christian churches in Iran. For that matter you won't catch me in Iran either, I don't want to live in an Islamic country. Can't say I blame the Swiss for being in fear of their country turning into an Islamic country. John, I appreciate your not deleting comments that you don't like. I do however ask that you read up on Godwin's law, which references comparing your opponent to Hitler. I agree with much of what Richard has said. I've met people who wanted to put me in a cage in Gitmo on account of my race, I don't think that Richard is among them. I'm on the left side of the political spectrum. At the same time I don't believe in what seems to be a prevalent liberal belief, namely that right-thinking people should never consider questions over what cultures to allow to have a presence and a voice. America may have signed up to be the great melting pot, but the Swiss didn't, why should they be forced to be? What’s so horrible about the Swiss people not wanting Islam in their country? Islamic countries wouldn’t allow a bunch of Swiss people to come in and expect their cultural views to be catered to.

My father is from Iran, you don’t see Christian churches in Iran. For that matter you won’t catch me in Iran either, I don’t want to live in an Islamic country. Can’t say I blame the Swiss for being in fear of their country turning into an Islamic country.

John, I appreciate your not deleting comments that you don’t like. I do however ask that you read up on Godwin’s law, which references comparing your opponent to Hitler. I agree with much of what Richard has said. I’ve met people who wanted to put me in a cage in Gitmo on account of my race, I don’t think that Richard is among them.

I’m on the left side of the political spectrum. At the same time I don’t believe in what seems to be a prevalent liberal belief, namely that right-thinking people should never consider questions over what cultures to allow to have a presence and a voice. America may have signed up to be the great melting pot, but the Swiss didn’t, why should they be forced to be?

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]]> By: Dave http://newsjunkiepost.com/2009/12/01/europe-the-dangerous-rise-of-anti-islam-far-right/comment-page-1/#comment-2392 Dave Sun, 06 Dec 2009 07:23:18 +0000 http://newsjunkiepost.com/?p=8164#comment-2392 I don't see the logic of killing. Who gives the right to kill the innocents? This is the case when Muslim kills , it is justified by their own laws in Quran. So please be analytical. Perhaps , you being a Muslim you are not permitted to analyse except listening from your 'only' source of Quran and Mullahs. I have seen how the Mullahs in the mosque spew hatred. You cordoned this so called justifiable hatred. If you say so , I may as well rest my case. Thanks for the debate. I see Islamists are good in picking up the history of other massacres committed by self centred leaders but forgetting about those massacres committing by them in the name of religion. Very selective reasoning. I believe you will not agree with me if I have a religion that calls me to kill Muslims.That's ludicrous. I don’t see the logic of killing. Who gives the right to kill the innocents? This is the case when Muslim kills , it is justified by their own laws in Quran. So please be analytical. Perhaps , you being a Muslim you are not permitted to analyse except listening from your ‘only’ source of Quran and Mullahs. I have seen how the Mullahs in the mosque spew hatred. You cordoned this so called justifiable hatred. If you say so , I may as well rest my case. Thanks for the debate. I see Islamists are good in picking up the history of other massacres committed by self centred leaders but forgetting about those massacres committing by them in the name of religion. Very selective reasoning. I believe you will not agree with me if I have a religion that calls me to kill Muslims.That’s ludicrous.

]]> By: John http://newsjunkiepost.com/2009/12/01/europe-the-dangerous-rise-of-anti-islam-far-right/comment-page-1/#comment-2391 John Sun, 06 Dec 2009 06:52:36 +0000 http://newsjunkiepost.com/?p=8164#comment-2391 Actually it is on the contrary. "There is no compulsion in religion" Quran 2:256. This is one of the most democratic statements I have ever read and which the West so much harps about. What is there to fear? Fear would be from humans who are practicing somethings differently. That doesnt mean Islam is wronged! Actually it is on the contrary. “There is no compulsion in religion” Quran 2:256. This is one of the most democratic statements I have ever read and which the West so much harps about. What is there to fear? Fear would be from humans who are practicing somethings differently. That doesnt mean Islam is wronged!

]]> By: John http://newsjunkiepost.com/2009/12/01/europe-the-dangerous-rise-of-anti-islam-far-right/comment-page-1/#comment-2390 John Sun, 06 Dec 2009 06:43:45 +0000 http://newsjunkiepost.com/?p=8164#comment-2390 Sure. There are also verses like (2:191) " And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out" But verses as these are in context of war. I guess it is important not to read any book, any content out of context, but as a whole. Any general or commander in war will advise its army to kill its enemy. I think there is nothing wrong in that. Going ahead Quran also mentions strictly in the next verse (2:193) "But if they cease, let there be no transgression". According to Christians, Jesus will come back again and kill? all the non believers. That is what Bible says in Luke 19:27. Thus it is important to understand a context to a message than misinterpreting them. Sure. There are also verses like (2:191) ” And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out” But verses as these are in context of war. I guess it is important not to read any book, any content out of context, but as a whole. Any general or commander in war will advise its army to kill its enemy. I think there is nothing wrong in that. Going ahead Quran also mentions strictly in the next verse (2:193) “But if they cease, let there be no transgression”. According to Christians, Jesus will come back again and kill? all the non believers. That is what Bible says in Luke 19:27. Thus it is important to understand a context to a message than misinterpreting them.

]]> By: Dave http://newsjunkiepost.com/2009/12/01/europe-the-dangerous-rise-of-anti-islam-far-right/comment-page-1/#comment-2389 Dave Sun, 06 Dec 2009 03:04:56 +0000 http://newsjunkiepost.com/?p=8164#comment-2389 If what you say is true, then I see no reason why non-muslims are so apprehensive of Islam. My further understanding is that, the Quran has two faces ; one is the Mecca version and the other is the Medina version. What you have quoted is the Mecca, a soft , kind and acceptable to humanity but the Medina verses are so virulent. So the muslims like you may practice the Mecca version but who knows you may change to adopt the Medina version if you think you want. You may say , that you are complying with Quran. So those Muslims who are violent who commit the terrorist act are right from the eyes of Islam. Which is which now? I had the same thought like you , that is all religion will always preach goodness but I was wrong after reading Quran. If what you say is true, then I see no reason why non-muslims are so apprehensive of Islam. My further understanding is that, the Quran has two faces ; one is the Mecca version and the other is the Medina version. What you have quoted is the Mecca, a soft , kind and acceptable to humanity but the Medina verses are so virulent. So the muslims like you may practice the Mecca version but who knows you may change to adopt the Medina version if you think you want. You may say , that you are complying with Quran. So those Muslims who are violent who commit the terrorist act are right from the eyes of Islam. Which is which now?

I had the same thought like you , that is all religion will always preach goodness but I was wrong after reading Quran.

]]> By: Val Gorsky http://newsjunkiepost.com/2009/12/01/europe-the-dangerous-rise-of-anti-islam-far-right/comment-page-1/#comment-2384 Val Gorsky Sat, 05 Dec 2009 20:06:19 +0000 http://newsjunkiepost.com/?p=8164#comment-2384 Another UI. I guess you never been in Malmo. Sweden. Another UI. I guess you never been in Malmo. Sweden.

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