How Latinos In Arizona And In Other States Will Strike Back

Arizona Republicans better kiss their power in the state “goodbye.”

The adoption of the anti-immigrant legislation that Arizona Governor Jan Brewer signed on Friday could greatly affect the outcome of future elections in the state by delivering Latino voters to Democrats on a silver platter.

Proposition 187, Big Mistake

It was back in 1994 when former California Governor Pete Wilson and the then majority Republican state legislature approved Proposition 187 or the Save Our State initiative, a bill that denied services to undocumented immigrants and granted power to authorities to arrest anyone they suspected was in the country illegally. Proposition 187 was perhaps the worst mistake that Republicans made in California’s history and it cost them the state assembly and legislature until this day.

Angry voters in California who scapegoated undocumented immigrants for their financial woes, crime, and lack of job opportunities took to the polls to vote for Proposition 187 in the 1994 election. They felt that by passing this law, all of their problems would go away and happiness would once again reign in California. Governor Pete Wilson had declared war against undocumented immigrants and this law was his greatest victory.

But soon after the election, a judge put a restraining order against Prop 187 and in 1999, federal courts declared the anti-immigrant legislation unconstitutional.

After Prop 187 Democrats Won

After the whole fiasco with Proposition 187 Latino voters and other ethnic immigrants who had once supported the Republicans had a reason to finally leave the party. These new Latino Democrats along with the rest of the Democratic bunch, mobilized to the polls in 1999 to vote for a Democratic governor and a Democratic state legislature.

Some 11 years later, Democrats in California have enjoyed ruling the state, with the exception of the governorship which has been Arnold Schwarzenegger’s turf after voters recalled Gray Davis. But Republicans in California now know better, and when they are running for office they don’t dare mention or allude to their anti-immigrant sentiments.

How Arizona Will Affect Republican Races

What happened in California will be repeated in Arizona. Over 26 percent of Arizona is Latino and 34 percent of the population is Democrat. If Republican Latinos turn to the Democrat party and pick up some independents along the way, the state of Arizona will be blue, perhaps permanently.

The anti-immigrant sentiment in Arizona will also likely trigger Latinos in other states to be on guard and show their support for Democrats in upcoming elections. There are races in California and Nevada that are depending on Latino voters. In California, Jerry Brown will need all the votes he can get to beat Meg Whitman for the governorship. And, in Nevada, Harry Reid will need these voters too to beat his Republican opponent. There are also governor races in New Mexico and Florida, were Latinos have voter power.

With Obama in support of immigration reform and a Democratic House and Senate moving towards drafting those bills, Latino voters will be watching who is working towards their interest and who is not, and when the 2010 election results come in later this year we’ll see who had the last laugh.

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  2. +6 Vote -1 Vote +1Emanuel Garcia
    April 24, 2010 at 12:07 am

    This writer is simply plagerizing a statement made by n ASU professor, which in and of itself, was made out of frustration. The general sentiment in the state is that Arizonans are tired of the negative efects of an overabundance of illegal immigrants and they are finally fighting back. Articles like this are mere fantasies and blind to the true state of things.

    • Ole Ole Olson
      -1 Vote -1 Vote +1Ole Ole Olson
      April 24, 2010 at 12:23 am

      As someone who recently visited there, and saw firsthand the enormous tension that surrounds this issue, I understand the frustration felt all around. However, this bill is clearly racist, and takes away constitutional rights of people in Arizona. Further, it is dangerously close to proto-fascism, if not there already. Papers please.

    • Dolores M. Bernal
      +1 Vote -1 Vote +1Dolores M. Bernal
      April 24, 2010 at 12:47 am

      Funny, this article is based on conversations I had this week with fellow reporters in Berkeley, so I’m glad there are more people out there (including this “ASU professor” that you mention) that agree.

    • +5 Vote -1 Vote +1JJR
      April 24, 2010 at 7:24 pm

      Go after illegal immigrants is like treating a symptom not the disease . We should be going after the individuals who are hiring them. I say heavy fines and jail time for people who knowingly hire an illegal immigrant.
      But since the people who are hiring them are the one with the money
      and power it most likely will never happen.

    • +11 Vote -1 Vote +1jared moya
      April 24, 2010 at 10:29 pm

      Uh, 70% of Arizonans support the immigration bill

      If Obama would do his job as commander and chief and regulate the border, states like AZ wouldn’t have to come up with laws like this one.

  3. +7 Vote -1 Vote +1Ted
    April 24, 2010 at 1:22 am

    [[However, this bill is clearly racist, and takes away constitutional rights of people in Arizona.]]

    Of which people, specifically? The people living in the country illegally? That’s a shame. That’s a damned shame. That people who broke our laws and entered the country illegally are having their “Constitutional rights” taken away.

    Kudos to Jan Brewer. This is a step in the right direction.

    • +10 Vote -1 Vote +1SG
      April 24, 2010 at 1:10 pm

      This bill gives untrained LEO’s complete discretion in the enforcement of immigration law, a federal matter. An officer can stop anyone he believes to fit the profile of an illegal immigrant and demand to see immigration papers. This includes legal immigrants, US born children of immigrants, and pretty much anyone that’s brown.

      • +3 Vote -1 Vote +1Chris
        April 24, 2010 at 1:33 pm

        The only way this law can be applied and not be racist by profiling is for police to just stop everyone constantly to ask for their documents. Yes, this would include white Republicans will now have to give up their rights to walk down the street without having to prove to authorities they are citizens. Plus, what happens if you really are a citizen but have no ID on you?

        Granted, we all know that only brown skinned people will be stopped, which is why Ted, this is a racist bill.

        • +3 Vote -1 Vote +1Rudi
          April 24, 2010 at 2:44 pm

          Latinos created this problem. Can’t blame Americans for defending themselvs. If Latinos didn’t do what they do, Americans would have to do what we are doing now. It’s not that we have wronged anybody. Mexico has been wrong.

          • -2 Vote -1 Vote +1joel
            April 24, 2010 at 10:31 pm

            Latino and American are not mutually exclusive categories… This law will make it so that Hispanics who can trace their American lineage back for generations will be stopped on the street and harassed, just because they aren’t white

        • +1 Vote -1 Vote +1R. Martinez
          April 25, 2010 at 5:30 pm

          We, as LEGAL American citizens ARE required by law to carry I.D. at ALL TIMES. When it is requested and we do not produce it, we are detained, identified by other means then called to court, required to produce it and ,are fined for not carrying it in the first place.

          • +1 Vote -1 Vote +1SG
            April 26, 2010 at 12:21 am

            Actually, we’re not. Only while driving.

            • +2 Vote -1 Vote +1R. Martinez
              April 26, 2010 at 1:37 pm

              Yes we are. Vagrancy law.

      • +2 Vote -1 Vote +1crzydjm
        April 24, 2010 at 4:58 pm

        You haven’t actually read it then? There will be training given to state LEO’s to mirror the training that Federal LEO’s already have. “untrained” is an ignorant statement to make.

      • +3 Vote -1 Vote +1magyart
        April 25, 2010 at 9:05 pm

        All those who are so staunchly opposed to the Arizona Bill making it against the law for an alien not to have an Alien Registration card in their possession obviously have no clue that it simply mirrors a Federal law which is already on the books.

        Sec. 264. [8 U.S.C. 1304]

        (e) Every alien, eighteen years of age and over, shall at all times carry with him and have in his personal possession any certificate of alien registration or alien registration receipt card issued to him pursuant to subsection (d). Any alien who fails to comply with the provisions of this subsection shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and shall upon conviction for each offense be fined not to exceed $100 or be imprisoned not more than thirty days, or both.

        http://www.uscis.gov/ilink/docView/SLB/HTML/SLB/0-0-0-1/0-0-0-29/0-0-0-8289.html

    • -5 Vote -1 Vote +1Rudi
      April 24, 2010 at 4:00 pm

      Clearly the bill is anti-American Killer-illegal alien!

  4. +4 Vote -1 Vote +1Lisa
    April 24, 2010 at 3:37 am

    First, people here illegally don’t yet have constitutional rights since they’re not citizens. Second, anyone who is opposing this is technically condoning illegal immigration. Why wouldn’t anyone want to curtail and stop this? it’s a drain on us, our economy, our country, our reputation? It’s about time someone took a stand on this issue. This country needs to get back to rewarding the upstanding citizens that keep the country going, not rewarding the freeloaders. It took a WOMAN to show the politicians who are ruining the country what it’s actually like to have a set of balls.

    • +4 Vote -1 Vote +1miek
      April 24, 2010 at 1:15 pm

      Well said Lisa!

    • Vote -1 Vote +1Spork
      April 24, 2010 at 1:20 pm

      Yeah, keeping people who can only get work cleaning your toilets and cooking your food and picking your fruits and vegetables is a real power drain on the economy…

      Look, letting the cops pull over anyone brown and demanding papers is patently racist in that the LEOs are profiling people based on race. It really is simple enough for simpletons to understand. Take all your white rage and pain a mustache on a picture of Obama, will ya?

      • +4 Vote -1 Vote +1R. Martinez
        April 25, 2010 at 6:33 pm

        Say, someone sneaks into your home, uses all the amenities of your home, but still leaves to a job each day so they can send money to their “REAL” family in their “REAL” country, hides when you come home each day , runs about waving his foreign countries emblems every time he is gathered with fellow squatters , and goes back to YOUR house for aid and shelter each day ,then carries on this way , day after day, year after year. When discovered, he goes unconfronted because of his use of intimidation against you or, because the authorities would not take your right to expel him seriously. Once you have had enough and decide to INSIST on YOUR RIGHT to have this person STOPPED and, REMOVED from your home, do you REALLY think you have no right to remove this person ? Just because, he has gotten away with it for so long? Or because he insists that he helps you keep the household bills low, cleans the toilet?
        BULL!
        Those who BROKE OUR LAWS to be here and INSIST on RIGHTS in that same country that he has no allegiance to, and can attribute nothing but RACISM to,is NOT the kind of person I want to live with! It’s about the ATTITUDE. I feel equally DISGUSTED by U.S. born persons that behave irrationally or criminally , irregardless of race . Should this country grant him citizenship, it would be incumbent on HIM to be grateful and LOYAL to this country and its people AND abandon the ways of the country he fled from. HE and YOU have NO right to be indignant toward those whom have a TRUE RIGHT to shape their own society by legal means NOT intimidation or govermental agenda. NOR do YOU have a right to WILLFULLY benefit by what amounts to POLITICAL SLAVERY! SHAME ON YOU! Try something OTHER than the RACE CARD will ya?

        • +4 Vote -1 Vote +1R. Martinez
          April 25, 2010 at 7:12 pm

          By the way, my brother is a legal citizen and built a route washing windows and cleaning toilets for businesses to put himself through technical school . He lost his business routes and this disrupted HIS ability to keep his school schedule, because he was way underbid by illegal persons. So , don’t EVEN pull that “jobs, Americans won’t do” garbage.

    • -6 Vote -1 Vote +1bort
      April 24, 2010 at 1:40 pm

      Poorly said Lisa!

    • +5 Vote -1 Vote +1yousrname
      April 24, 2010 at 2:10 pm

      Ha Ha. Awesome, Lisa. I really do not understand how these people feel justified in getting so angry about this. How is a state law that mirrors Federal Law on the same subject, verbatim, sooooo dangerous?

      • +17 Vote -1 Vote +1Chad
        April 24, 2010 at 2:35 pm

        America is Republic. This means we are a country of LAWS!!!! Illegal immigrants are illegal. Therefore, we follow the rule of law. My wife is an immigrant and she came here legally with her PAPERS!!!! Now, she is a legal US citizen. This not a Democrat or a Republican problem this a problem with American’s who have forgotten what a Republic truly is. Enforce the laws that are currently in place.

        • -3 Vote -1 Vote +1SG
          April 24, 2010 at 7:04 pm

          Enforce the laws and do what? Deport them back to Mexico so they can come right back over the fence? This will be a problem as long as the reasons behind illegal immigration are present in Mexico.

          • +3 Vote -1 Vote +1R. Martinez
            April 25, 2010 at 5:32 pm

            SECURE the BORDER and ENFORCE!!!!

            • Vote -1 Vote +1Gordon
              May 1, 2010 at 7:13 am

              Get them the Visa that is necessary to work in this country legally. That’s the way the Germans treat foreign workers in there country. They have the right to work and they are documented but they aren’t citizens. If these people could easily get the required documentation to get into this country legally and with less effort they wouldn’t have to climb the fences to get here.

    • +1 Vote -1 Vote +1Jason
      April 25, 2010 at 6:21 am

      “Second, anyone who is opposing this is technically condoning illegal immigration. ”

      No. That isn’t logical. It’s like me saying “Anyone supporting this is against the 4th Amendment, therefore, against the Constitution, and as a result, against America.”

      It’s wrong.

      People aren’t against stopping illegal immigration. Rather, this isn’t the solution.

      There are other ways that don’t violate the rights of Americans to solve this problem.

      Are you willing to give up your right to solve this problem? Remember what Mr. Franklin said: “Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”

  5. +1 Vote -1 Vote +1Anonymous
    April 24, 2010 at 10:43 am

    I agree with what Lisa said!!

  6. +4 Vote -1 Vote +1Clvngodess
    April 24, 2010 at 12:15 pm

    I’m surprised at the ignorance about “illegal immigration.” But then this is a nation of consumers who suffer from the convenience of either ignorance or historic amnesia, or a syndrome of both.

    No one seems to be looking to the cause of the great fearful little brown person violating political borders. Oooh, shudder. To think that there are people fleeing an oppressed land in order to seek out, or eek out a tiny bit of promise, prosperity. Goddamn those brown people, right? How dare they pick our crops for less than minimum wage! How dare they stitch our American Apparel T-shirts that make us look so cool and hip! How dare they think they deserve better than we bestowed upon their HOMELAND via NAFTA! How dare they continue to support our apartheid economy! Shame on the exploited and maligned brown immigrant, legal and otherwise!

    Man, there are days, more often than not when my “fellow Americans” disgust me more than the political spin and lies they regurgitate.

    • +7 Vote -1 Vote +1SG
      April 24, 2010 at 1:07 pm

      The misguided drug war we’re waging within their borders isn’t helping much either. Within the first two weeks of 2010, almost 300 were killed in drug-war related incidents, including police officers, security guards and innocent bystanders.

    • +13 Vote -1 Vote +1nowhere man
      April 24, 2010 at 1:27 pm

      You make it sound like they are the only people in this world who are being oppressed. So in your opinion they should all get an automatic pass? (China?Africa?)

      What about all the people who go through the naturalization process and have to wait years to become a citizen? Should they be happy if others just magically become citizens because they are a certain ethnicity?

    • +11 Vote -1 Vote +1yousrname
      April 24, 2010 at 2:36 pm

      I know, imagine the audacity for saying that foreign nationals can’t live in our country illegally, causing exponential increase in murder, kidnapping, sex trade related human trafficking, etc.. while at the same time, causing an enormous burden on taxpayers during a time where there is huge unemployment.

      A state law that mirrors its corresponding Federal Law verbatim. How dare they?

      I tell you what, how about you come down out of your pseudo-intellectual little ENG 403 ivory tower and live in Tuscon or Phoenix for 2 years. It helps to know what you’re talking about.

  7. -25 Vote -1 Vote +1thomas mc
    April 24, 2010 at 12:25 pm

    Republican = RACIST

    • +24 Vote -1 Vote +1Tom
      April 24, 2010 at 12:42 pm

      Blanket statments like this one are racist. Do you really believe all Republicans are racist?

      • -21 Vote -1 Vote +1bort
        April 24, 2010 at 1:44 pm

        No but if you support this bill you are a racist.

      • +3 Vote -1 Vote +1Scott
        April 25, 2010 at 3:07 am

        Blanket statements about race are racist. Blanket statements about political parties are just potentially incorrect. Get it right. Or left.

        • +2 Vote -1 Vote +1R. Martinez
          April 25, 2010 at 5:35 pm

          INDEPENDENT!

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  9. +7 Vote -1 Vote +1miguel
    April 24, 2010 at 12:49 pm

    Article 14, US Constitution: …nor shall any State deprive any PERSON of life, liberty or property without due process of law; nor deny to any PERSON within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws..” Any PERSON. Not citizen, not resident. PERSON. Everyone has rights. Period. For so called conservatives to conveniently ignore their sacred constitution regarding this is to expose their true hypocrisy.

    • +11 Vote -1 Vote +1David
      April 24, 2010 at 1:24 pm

      What about responsibilities? Everyone wants their rights. Everyone wants everyone’s rights protected. But when are we going to hold people responsible for their actions? When are we going to enforce the laws that are already on the books? A large majority of the population is growing disillusioned with a government that is “reforming” everything! Everything that already has plenty of laws on the books that are never enforced – immigration, health care, finance. So before you get mad at Arizona for this law – get mad at the U.S. Government for putting them in that position by not enforcing all the immigration laws currently on the books.

      • -10 Vote -1 Vote +1bort
        April 24, 2010 at 1:44 pm

        Lol David that’s a lot of words and no substance. You’re just mad that there’s a black guy in the White-house.

        • +5 Vote -1 Vote +1David
          April 24, 2010 at 1:50 pm

          Wow. Really? Once again lets play the race card instead of refuting what the other side says. We’ll see how it shakes out in November.

          Funny how the side that claims the other side is racist is the one that assumes the race and motive of the other side.

          • -2 Vote -1 Vote +1bort
            April 24, 2010 at 1:53 pm

            Didn’t hear any complaints about the fed when Bush was in office.

            It’s race you can deny it all you want its all about race.

            • +5 Vote -1 Vote +1David
              April 24, 2010 at 2:18 pm

              Let’s add mind reading to your skills – along with race card playing. Those of us who are conservative have been focusing on these issues as far back as the Bush years – that’s Bush the First mind you. Don’t discount the sentiments just because they are peaking during a president you support. There are people of all political background.

              BTW – The race card argument and the “didn’t complain during Bush arguments are really overused. Once again refute anything I said. You can’t you go back to the typical argument. If I were a conspiracy buff I would ask where you got your talking points.

              • Vote -1 Vote +1bort
                April 24, 2010 at 2:32 pm

                you didn’t discount anything I said. Where were the tea partiers when the patriot act was passed?

              • Vote -1 Vote +1Wilma
                April 24, 2010 at 8:18 pm

                Bort, you are surely an obama follower for you are the only one playing the race card. Let me give you a clue. obama is not black. he is arab and white which accounts for his brown skin color. he is not an african american. So can’t play the racecard no mo. Your a racist and David wins.

            • +1 Vote -1 Vote +1R. Martinez
              April 25, 2010 at 5:41 pm

              Obviously, you weren’t paying attention THEN!

      • Vote -1 Vote +1Chris
        April 24, 2010 at 1:48 pm

        Dave, we know many households in the US currently have illegal drugs in them. You would want the drug laws enforced through routine searches of everyone’s house (yes even the ones with no drugs in them) to find them in people’s houses?

        Fact is, not all laws can be enforced in every way possible because our constitution gives us the right to not be victims of government searches in this way.

        • +4 Vote -1 Vote +1David
          April 24, 2010 at 2:21 pm

          I’m not talking unreasonable search and seizure. I’m talking enforcing the laws on the books. Like going after the employers who knowingly hire illegal immigrants. If you aren’t going to enforce a law or it is unenforceable then what is the point? The public is tiring of increasing legislation that is suppose to “solve” the problem when all it does is add an additional layer of laws that will not be enforced anymore than the previous batch.

          • Vote -1 Vote +1Scott
            April 25, 2010 at 3:11 am

            That’s the best we can hope for with this law before it’s (inevitably) branded unconstitutional in the state Supreme Court.

      • -3 Vote -1 Vote +1Paulnps
        April 24, 2010 at 2:03 pm

        David,

        Are you suggesting that Latino people or any other group is not “responsible?” How do you know that? Did you know that many of those people doing the dishes or cooking in the cafe where you eat, or fixing your car or cleaning the hotels near you work very hard. And they pay taxes too!

        Did you know that many Angelos will not do the service jobs that many Latinos do regularly? Did you know that in areas where Latinos have been driven away through bigoted laws that the economies have often gone through near collapse?

        I hope that you also see “mutual respect” as important as “responsiblity?”

        • +5 Vote -1 Vote +1David
          April 24, 2010 at 2:15 pm

          Responsibility refers to following the laws of society even when they don’t benefit you. I’m sorry you weren’t able to follow my argument. I’m not talking about contributions to society. I’m talking about the rights and responsibility of citizenship.

          • -6 Vote -1 Vote +1bort
            April 24, 2010 at 2:44 pm

            He followed your argument just fine you’re just reachin for excuses buddy.

            Why don’t you move to Sweden where there’s less brown people to bother you? This is America we welcome people of all races.

            • +4 Vote -1 Vote +1David
              April 24, 2010 at 3:45 pm

              Oh, I see. Wait aren’t you co-opting nasty racist viewpoints? America love it or leave it? I like most conservatives don’t have a problem with people of color. We have problems with people breaking the law. Oh yeah, lets look at who keeps bringing race into this comment and throwing the racist accusations…the side who claims they aren’t.

              About the Patriot Act…for a side who claims to welcome all people you sure aren’t very welcoming of people of differing opinions. The jest of what I’m getting from you is…disagree with what I disagree with or shut up. Once again the side claiming the most tolerance is the least tolerant. Oh, except when it comes to people breaking the law…then your side is very tolerant. Does that about sum it up, bort?

        • +7 Vote -1 Vote +1David
          April 24, 2010 at 3:53 pm

          Paul,
          How about enforcing immigration laws so that the people who do those jobs get paid a fair wage. I have seen illegal immigration destroy the paint industry. That is a job that anglos do that has been destroyed because they are undercut by illegal immigrants and companies that hire illegal immigrants.

          So, do you prefer to keep a work pool of illegal immigrants so there is cheap labor? Why would anyone who really cares for the people they claim to care for want to keep the status quo so others can take advantage of them. Remember all the confirmation hearing over the last 15 years where people had to withdraw because they had hired illegal immigrants to watch their kids? Those were politicians from both sides. And yet it is allowed to happen because there is no enforcement or penalty for doing it. Unless of course you want to be the appointed to a position in the U.S. Govt.

          • +1 Vote -1 Vote +1Paulnps
            April 24, 2010 at 6:04 pm

            Good point. As a former employer I know it is difficult to keep a good workforce. And when wages are unfairly cut by a competitor it is very difficult on a business.

            I do think that hiring laws are the best place enforce. i also think that we should have a migrant worker certification program so that crops don’t just die on the vine since farmers can’t find American citizens who will do the jobs in the fields or other places.

            • Vote -1 Vote +1David
              April 24, 2010 at 9:40 pm

              I agree as well. I have always felt there should be a guest worker program that would give people a first step toward legal citizenship. As I said…I don’t have a problem with immigration…my problem is with illegal immigration. Set up a system that is more practical and efficient than the current system of green cards, etc.

    • +2 Vote -1 Vote +1JT
      April 24, 2010 at 1:32 pm

      Thank you for pointing this out.

    • +4 Vote -1 Vote +1William R. James
      April 24, 2010 at 3:37 pm

      Try them for their crime of entering illegally, convict them, put them on a chain gang for a decade or so, and deport them. Due process…

      But an invasion is a different issue from a simple crime. This is an invasion by mexico. They are intentionally flooding the US with their criminals. The proper response to an invasion is to use the military and shoot to kill.

    • Vote -1 Vote +1Wilma
      April 24, 2010 at 7:55 pm

      Miguel,
      First of all the United States of America Constitution was written for American’s. Now that you hopefully understand that, you must also understand illegal immigrants are not American citizens, so you can quote our Constitution till the sun goes down, it still remains the same. If you are an illegal alien, you have no rights in the USA. You are here unlawfully. You are breaking the laws of the USA. You would need to be deported back to your own country to wait in line for your visa to come legally to the USA. Governor Jan Brewer did what any good self respecting leader of a state would do, she put her people first. She is protecting her constituents from further murder and violence, since the man who sits in the Peoples White House will not do his job and protect the citizens. If you have a problem with illegal immigration, take it to Mexico, where it all started, not here in the USA

    • Vote -1 Vote +1Wilma
      April 24, 2010 at 8:50 pm

      Miguel,
      First of all the United States of America Constitution was written for American’s. Now that you hopefully understand that, you must also understand illegal immigrants are not American citizens, so you can quote our Constitution till the sun goes down, it still remains the same. If you are an illegal alien, you have no rights in the USA. You are here unlawfully. You are breaking the laws of the USA. You would need to be deported back to your own country to wait in line for your visa to come legally to the USA. Governor Jan Brewer did what any good self respecting leader of a state would do, she put her people first. She is protecting her constituents from further murder and violence, since the man who sits in the Peoples White House will not do his job and protect the citizens. If you have a problem with illegal immigration, take it to Mexico, where it all started, not here in the USA ..I understand you better now that I see you write for that rag The Huffinton Post. What a leftist piece of crap.

  10. -3 Vote -1 Vote +1SL
    April 24, 2010 at 2:10 pm

    There is no such thing as “The Democrat Party”. This term is used by the Republicans to annoy the other party and because it sounds verbally abrupt. Do your homework and not the bidding of the opposition party!

  11. +5 Vote -1 Vote +1Rudi
    April 24, 2010 at 2:10 pm

    Good for Arizona! Mexico must learn how do build countries not destroy them. Now go home and learn from America and do what we do and you wont have any excuse or reason to come here. I have my home and you’ll a nice home of your own. It’s a win win situation.

    • +1 Vote -1 Vote +1Rudi
      April 24, 2010 at 2:13 pm

      Good for Arizona! Mexico must learn how to build countries not destroy them. Now go home and learn from America. Do what we do and you won’t have an excuse or reason to come here. I have my home and you’ll have a nice home of your own. It’s a win win situation.

  12. -1 Vote -1 Vote +1SL
    April 24, 2010 at 2:13 pm

    Calling Democrats or The Democratic Party “The Democrat Party” is as un-PC as referring to Latinos/Hispanics/Cubanos as “Spanish”(apologies to all of my Latino/Hispanic/Cubano friends…I’m trying to make a point)!

  13. +5 Vote -1 Vote +1AlexG
    April 24, 2010 at 2:33 pm

    This is not racist or anti Latino or anti immigration bill its anti illegal immigration bill. It should have been done long time ago and across most states. This bill does not encroach in any way on immigration there are still plenty of legal ways to do it, yes it takes time yes it is hard, but patience is a virtue. Also it is not fair to have some people pay/participate into the system and others abuse it without paying/participating. This is some what of a democratic country and should be ruled by majority not minority period.

  14. -4 Vote -1 Vote +1JT
    April 24, 2010 at 2:38 pm

    This is just straight out racism and it will cost the Arizona tax payer million$$ of dollars when errors happen. As an american i would be concerned on what is next? should we bring back slavery? should we start concentration camps? should we start segregating our bathrooms?

    • -2 Vote -1 Vote +1JT
      April 24, 2010 at 2:40 pm

      Republicans seriously did not think about this one. For thinking of one state they literally f$cked themselves all around the country now. nice strategy. lol

      • +2 Vote -1 Vote +1Wilma
        April 24, 2010 at 8:44 pm

        J T This answer is especially for you…..You surely must jest. there is nothing racist about the illegal immigration in the USA, and you know it. You are the only one talking about America’s dark past and Germany’s dark past, don’t forget to mention what the German’s did to the Jewish people, or what Saddam Hussein did to the Iraqi people or what Ahmadinajad is doing to the Iranian people. You should have your mouth washed out and then thank the good lord that you live in a country where we have the freedoms we speak out as we do. The illegal immigrants do not have any rights in this country and we do not have to share our countries resources, laws, schools, hospitals, doctors, etc, with them. They need to go home, and fix there own country and its resources.

    • +2 Vote -1 Vote +1Rudi
      April 24, 2010 at 2:48 pm

      Forget about the Republicans. This isn’t you againts the Republicans. It’s you/Latinos againts America.

      • -3 Vote -1 Vote +1bort
        April 24, 2010 at 2:59 pm

        No it’s you against America Rudi. You’re okay with this bill because you won’t be bothered by any cops anytime soon because you’re not a latino.

        Show me a single non-white person that supports this bill and I’ll come to your house and bake you a cake.

        • +1 Vote -1 Vote +1Rudi
          April 24, 2010 at 3:34 pm

          First, it’s that kind of comment that already tells me there’s nothing to discuss with you and secondly, You/Latinos created the problem, we/Americans have to/are going to solve it.
          It’s not as if Latinos have done anything right in “any” country. You have no appreciation and understanding what laws realy mean and do for successful societies. Why are Latinos fighting so hard for things here that they don’t deserve, when they could just change their own systems and benefit?

          • +1 Vote -1 Vote +1jason
            April 24, 2010 at 3:36 pm

            and the real racism comes out.

            • Vote -1 Vote +1William R. James
              April 24, 2010 at 3:38 pm

              Yes it does…. La Rosa.

              • +2 Vote -1 Vote +1William R. James
                April 24, 2010 at 3:39 pm

                Pardon the typo.

                Yes it does…. La Rasa.

              • +2 Vote -1 Vote +1Rudi
                April 24, 2010 at 3:41 pm

                it’s accually LA RAZA! which is a rageing racist group.

              • +1 Vote -1 Vote +1William R. James
                April 24, 2010 at 3:42 pm

                I’ll learn to type one of these days… :)

                La Raza certainly is showing the racism in this criminal invader issue. It’s ironic how racists continue to scream racism ofer any attempt to fight a crime problem that has noting to do with race.

            • Vote -1 Vote +1Rudi
              April 24, 2010 at 3:42 pm

              How can calling Latinos failures be considers a racist comment. I see is a nothing less then truth.

            • Vote -1 Vote +1Rudi
              April 24, 2010 at 3:45 pm

              I’m disappointed in you Jason that you haven’t delved into this matter in all it’s dynamics in order to release what hangs in the balance if Mexico is allowed to keep bulldozing it’s ways into this country. Unless you’re looking forward to it like Obama.

              • Vote -1 Vote +1jason
                April 24, 2010 at 3:50 pm

                troll more troll

            • Vote -1 Vote +1Rudi
              April 24, 2010 at 3:55 pm

              Jason you handle this argument as well as all of the Latino Racists do. Fact, figures, and logic come form the American side and all you have is “racist”or in this case “troll”. you know you’ve go nothing except a chip on your shoulder. And that’s not get you much further. Sorry.

        • +3 Vote -1 Vote +1crzydjm
          April 24, 2010 at 5:14 pm

          There are quite a few LEGAL latinos who support this bill, due to all the work they had to do acquiring their legal citizenship.

          I like butter cream icing.

          • Vote -1 Vote +1Rudi
            April 24, 2010 at 6:35 pm

            100%, Absolutley True.

    • Vote -1 Vote +1Wilma
      April 24, 2010 at 8:38 pm

      You surely must jest. there is nothing racist about the illegal immigration in the USA, and you know it. You are the only one talking about America’s dark past and Germany’s dark past, don’t forget to mention what the German’s did to the Jewish people, or what Saddam Hussein did to the Iraqi people or what Ahmadinajad is doing to the Iranian people. You should have your mouth washed out and then thank the good lord that you live in a country where we have the freedoms we speak out as we do. The illegal immigrants do not have any rights in this country and we do not have to share our countries resources, laws, schools, hospitals, doctors, etc, with them. They need to go home, and fix there own country and its resources.

  15. +5 Vote -1 Vote +1JJ
    April 24, 2010 at 3:32 pm

    I am by no means a republican. I’m pro-choice, pro-healthcare, etc. But you have to understand this bill is protecting those who are here legally. All rights are pretty much waived when a person enters this country illegally.
    And as for racial profiling? It’s a simple pychological method that we all use. Read the book “influence” by Cialdini. He clearly explains it, in the first chapter even. It is the schema that we all use to guide us though life without having to analyze ever situation Without this “Click, Whrrr” response (as he calls it) our brains would be overloaded and fried. And as a “brown- skinned” person, of all people you should be opposed to illegal immigrants for causing this upon you, making you have to carry papers everywhere. if it weren’t for illegal immigrants, well, this bill wouldn’t exist, obviously.

    • +1 Vote -1 Vote +1Rudi
      April 24, 2010 at 3:51 pm

      Unfortunately the idea that we have to carry paper work is comeing with if the illegal immigration was an issue or not. You’ve heard of the National I. D.? It’s going to happen. It’s part of the “New World Order”. Which honeslty I’m not much of a fan of.

    • Vote -1 Vote +1Rudi
      April 24, 2010 at 4:06 pm

      I agree with JJ!!!!

  16. -3 Vote -1 Vote +1Lou Woods
    April 24, 2010 at 4:57 pm

    I bet that pompous wind bag sheriff Joe Arpaio is jumping with joy.

    Lou
    http://www.anonymous-vpn.tk

    • +2 Vote -1 Vote +1R. Martinez
      April 25, 2010 at 7:22 pm

      I’ll bet those filthy cartels can feel their underoos tightening.

  17. +7 Vote -1 Vote +1Andrew
    April 24, 2010 at 6:55 pm

    This was really a poor article. It lacked substance and seemed to be more of a message of don’t cross Latinos on immigration or you are going to pay for it. Probably best demonstrated by the last phrase in the article:
    “and when the 2010 election results come in later this year we’ll see who had the last laugh.”

    I’m not sure what the laughing matter is and the author seems to just be caught up in the petty politics with no real concern for the direction of the country.

    Controlling (and eventually eliminating) illegal immigration should really be a liberal cause and I’m surprised more liberals don’t support it. Workers being paid less than minimum wage is unacceptable and is caused by illegal immigration since it creates a class of people in society who have no protections under the law and no recourse when they are treated poorly at work.

    I support most educational funding & social programs in this country, but understand that these programs cannot remain viable economically if we have a large group of people drawing on the system while not fully contributing.

    Personally I think the government should impose very serious fines and possibly short jail sentences for employers who knowingly employ illegal immigrants. Its likely the best way to curtail the problem.

    Please note that I’m not against legal immigration and would have no problem with an increase in immigration numbers. I don’t think illegal immigrants are running around our country committing violent crimes, nor blame them in any way for striving to improve the lives of their families. I just think it not unreasonable that we make sure that those benefiting from our tax dollars are in fact fully contributing to the system.

    • Vote -1 Vote +1Rudi
      April 24, 2010 at 7:08 pm

      I agree with you it was more of a message than an articale. The only thing this “message” is really good for is to get an insight on how the anti-american movement really thinks.

    • -1 Vote -1 Vote +1Rudi
      April 24, 2010 at 7:20 pm

      Well written response. Good for you Andrew.

  18. +6 Vote -1 Vote +1Matt
    April 24, 2010 at 9:52 pm

    No one has seemed to hit on one point that I feel is important. I live in Arizona and I am currently paying higher insurance (property and health) and higher taxes because of all of the illegal immigrants. Also in 2009 Hispanics were the #1 offender in every category for crime stats (theft, larceny, rape, murder….). Being born and raised in Arizona this really bothers me. Having to protect my family from these people also really bother me. Out of all the Hispanics that broke all of the laws, I wonder how many are here illegally? And maybe by reducing that number, we can make my family feel safer, and put a little money back into the legal citizen’s pockets.

  19. +4 Vote -1 Vote +1billyjean
    April 25, 2010 at 12:01 am

    is it coincidence that democrats have “enjoyed” running california snce 1999 and now the state is completely bankrupt?

    • +2 Vote -1 Vote +1seitgeist
      April 25, 2010 at 1:47 am

      billyjean has an EXCELLENT point……..

    • +4 Vote -1 Vote +1Andrew
      April 25, 2010 at 3:56 am

      billyjean seems to has missed the fact that the Federal government largely went bankrupt during the last 8 years of republican rule. I’m not saying the Democrats can claim to be fiscally responsible, but I’m certain the Republicans cannot.

      • +1 Vote -1 Vote +1R. Martinez
        April 25, 2010 at 7:32 pm

        The Democrats picked up the ball and ran it FURTHER. Both Republican and Democrat are addicted ALONG with their party to Lobby contributions and have an allegiance TO their PARTY AGENDA. ONLY when enough of us vote in an Independent candidate, will the PEOPLES agenda be more likely to be fulfilled.

        • Vote -1 Vote +1Andrew
          April 26, 2010 at 4:11 am

          That’s simply not true. The amount of money wasted during the Bush administration far outstrips the spending from the Obama Administration. Most of the spending people are complaining about (e.g. the bailouts) took place while Bush was president. The Democrats are definitely spending lots of money now…no doubt about that, but our current economic crisis was largely caused by Bush’s policies along with the Republicans.

          • +1 Vote -1 Vote +1R. Martinez
            April 26, 2010 at 1:32 pm

            I agree. The Bush administration is HUGELY responsible. However, that does not make my assertion untrue, that the Dems picked up the ball to carry it further. You wouldn’t say that they have done anything to REDUCE the deficit, would you? Who is looking forward to paying for this new Health care bill? And the dems have only just begun.

            • Vote -1 Vote +1Andrew
              April 26, 2010 at 5:04 pm

              I already agreed with you that they picked up the ball, but they have in no way yet carried it further. They need to spend another 4-5 trillion for that to happen

              • Vote -1 Vote +1R. Martinez
                April 27, 2010 at 5:21 pm

                I think ,see where this is stumbling. What I said was FURTHER. As in, continuing to carry the deficit on upward.Not that they have carried it FARTHER than Reps.

              • Vote -1 Vote +1Andrew
                April 27, 2010 at 7:45 pm

                oops…good point…..not paying attention to my diction…

  20. +4 Vote -1 Vote +1William Ramos
    April 25, 2010 at 6:08 am

    I wish we had a gov. and a sherif like that in miami fl. We also have an illegal immigrant issue. This is one american of spanish decent that will not stand for the nazi tactics of the left, I can see right through them as we march towards socialism. We need tea partiers and conservatives who support them.

    Good show AZ!

  21. +3 Vote -1 Vote +1Jaime Escalante
    April 25, 2010 at 7:05 am

    As an American, I support fully the rule of law. It has been obvious that for years, the laws have been thwarted by lack of enforcement. My family came here legally and so should others. If I am asked for ID, I will show them my DL and social security card. NO BIG DEAL.

  22. +3 Vote -1 Vote +1Justin
    April 25, 2010 at 11:05 am

    The law doesnt allow them to just randomly pull over people because they are “brown”. They can only pull over and “search” people who have already broken a law or committed a moving violation. They must also have a reason to believe that said person is undocumented. Let’s get back to the issue, they have already broken 1 law of this country, and instead of sending them back to their country, Obama and the Dems want to give them amnesty so that they can “earn” another 20m votes come election time. If you think any politician cares for your plight, your dead wrong, they are using the cause to give them power.

  23. +2 Vote -1 Vote +1R. Martinez
    April 25, 2010 at 6:57 pm

    In light of the ever increasing infiltration by drug cartels into the U.S., I would be interested to hear from those whom are NOT here LEGALLY, about what they DO think America SHOULD or COULD do to secure our country against its ruin, that would NOT be labeled “Racist” ?

    • +1 Vote -1 Vote +1R. Martinez
      April 25, 2010 at 8:01 pm

      Or, from ANYONE of “Color”, legal OR not.

      • +1 Vote -1 Vote +1R. Martinez
        April 27, 2010 at 5:26 pm

        Anyone,anyone? Beuller, Bueller?

        • Vote -1 Vote +1R. Martinez
          April 29, 2010 at 4:35 pm

          Hmmm, NOTHING. If only there were as much passion about SECURING and DEFENDING America as there is for screaming for what everyone wants FROM it.

  24. -2 Vote -1 Vote +1bochom
    April 25, 2010 at 9:25 pm

    Who does la raza and the dangerous liberal media spew the notion that all the names ending in the letter ‘ Z ‘ are dumb?,,perhaps because they believe their lies?,,,I kown people with the Z in their names who are third generation americans and they are against Illegal Immigration 100%,so how come they are not interviwed on national television like the pro illegal racist?

  25. +1 Vote -1 Vote +1R. Martinez
    April 25, 2010 at 11:00 pm

    I’m not quite sure what it is that , you are trying to say here,Whatever your case, I assure you that the “Z” in my name does not affect my ability to reason. Irregardless of what La Raza thinks of a “Z”.

  26. Vote -1 Vote +1R. Martinez
    April 25, 2010 at 11:00 pm

    Care to address the question?

  27. Vote -1 Vote +1shorty
    April 27, 2010 at 1:57 am

    And the democrats took over in 1999. Then took California into the toilet:
    * Stanford says we’re 1/2 trillion underwater on pensions. In 1999(remember that’s when the DEMS came in) Calpers said the DOW would be 25,000 today. It’s not… so we had to cough up 3.4 Billion make up for the underage, in the middle of a recession and (democratic caused) budget crisis. No problem ……… just hack the schools budgets.
    * Most expensive prison system in the country… Grey Davis the Democratic governor gave our already overpaid prison guards a 35% raise in 2003. We’re out of control at state, county and city level – jail personnel making $100-200-300+ thousand/year. A nurse at SF County makes $350,000/year(sfgate). A guy quit Corcoran after 10 years and got a check for $815,000 for “unused vacation/comp time”(sfgate). Congratulations Democrats. A nurse a Dueul has 26 hours/day average on her time card(sacbee)
    ……… Texas has about the same# of inmates, California spends 4x Texas/a hundred billion more in the next 10 years counting sacrificed interest and unfunded liabilities.
    *
    California CARB’s emissions policy is based on a paper by Hien Tran… who has a mail order diploma. He got it after be caught lying on his resume. And our biggest environmental disaster occured on the Dems watch : CARBS MTBE requirement.
    The legislature & PUC didn’t require PGE to test or pilot their smart meter program. In hearings today PGE said they have 41,000 malfunctions. We paid for this idiocy.
    In the middle of a recession it’s party time in SACTO. Raises and early (unearned) retirements for legislative staff (thank you Angela Bass & Fabian Nunez), Plus appointments 6 figure jobs on state commissions that meet 1-2 times a month(don’t know if you actually have to show up).
    And it goes on and on.
    P.S. 187 is actually in limbo…… it was never appealed.
    *

  28. Vote -1 Vote +1shorty
    April 27, 2010 at 1:59 am

    BTW …………………… the boycott is going to hurt the immigrants people are ostensibly trying to help………………
    *