Political Anti-Gay Rhetoric Fuels Anti-Gay Violence
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Oct 11, 2010 at 2:28 pm
Welcome to Anita Bryant’s America. Gay kids are being taunted at alarming rates. Violent incidents against gays have spiked in culturally tolerant cities like New York in startling numbers. And politicians are openly denouncing the “gay lifestyle” and campaigning on keeping gay teachers out of schools.
What’s wrong with this picture? It’s bad enough to have to count the anti-gay witch hunt of the ’70′s among our nation’s disgraces. But to re-visit such ignorance and hatred is unthinkable. Despite a generation of advances and positive openly gay role models in public life and in the popular culture, despite having gay marriage legalized in a handful of states and the troublesome Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell military policy winding to a slow dissolution, discrimination and taunting are still prevalent in our schools, playgrounds and streets. High profile incidents like the humiliation suffered by Tyler Clementi, the Rutgers student who committed suicide after being outed by his roommate in the most despicable way, underscore the bullying and discrimination millions of people still endure.
Whether fueled by ignorance or cynical pandering, election season always seems to ignite intolerance’s ferocious flame as politicians seeking to curry favor with the so-called “family values’ voters, invariably attack gays. Last week Jim DeMint, the obstructionist senator from South Carolina, said gays ( and single women who engage in out of wedlock sex) shouldn’t be allowed to teach. Whoa! Anyone who can make a statement like that shouldn’t be allowed to roam around unsupervised in the year 2010, let alone serve in Congress. Why is this an issue? Teachers–regardless of sexual proclivities–shouldn’t be discussing their sex lives with students. If a teacher is teaching chemistry or English or history, how is his or her sex life relevant?
The real fear, of course, is the bogus notion that gay teachers will indoctrinate or brainwash kids into following a “homosexual lifestyle.” Let’s forget decades of scientific research that clearly supports the biological theory of homosexuality. In other words, either you’re born gay or you’re not. Some people are bisexual. But no one chooses to be gay anymore than you choose your race or gender.
Watch this snippet from New York Republican gubernatorial candidate Carl Paladino:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17ERPr5W13s
His spewing the idea that “students shouldn’t be brainwashed into thinking that homosexuality is an equally successful or viable lifestyle” speaks to this cynicism. Coming on the heels of a weekend in which two gay teens and a young gay man were brutally beaten by a gang of thugs in the Bronx, such remarks–given before a gathering of Orthodox rabbis–are outrageous. Politicians have a responsibility to the sweeping spectrum of society not just their small constituency. To further incite hate is unconscionable.
Crazy Carl, of course, made the rounds of the morning talks shows, deflecting blame and offering up a gay nephew as his version of the infamous “some of my best friends are….” defense. He stands by what he said, but insists he’s not anti-gay. “The gay lifestyle is a hard choice. There is too much discrimination. There should be less discrimination against gays,” he said on “The Today Show.” The fact that the Tea Party endorsed nut–notorious for physically attacking a New York Post reporter, sending sleazy e-mails and campaign mailers that smell like garbage, and whose platform consists of unfiltered anger and herding welfare recipients into vacant prison dorms to learn personal hygiene–doesn’t recognize or acknowledge the correlation between his reckless comments and the discrimination he claims to abhor, is par for the course during the election season. Lest we forget Karl Rove successfully trotted out the gay marriage bogeyman back in 2004. And Paladino has vowed to veto a gay marriage law in New York.
The wave of anti-gay violence isn’t limited to the United States. On Sunday, 1000 Serbian gay rights activists were met with the violent throttle of bricks, bottles and taunts by 6000 anti-gay rioters. Incidents are on the rise in places like England, Chile and Slovakia, with Neo-Nazi groups usually behind the attacks. This somehow makes the gaggle of rabbis standing by Paladino’s side ever more disturbing. And yes, let’s not misquote Crazy Carl; he did preface his comments by saying he’s not out to hurt gays, he has a “live and let live approach.” But come on. Both Paladino an those religious leaders should realize that such a mixed message is seen by extreme groups, already hellbent on hate, as a tacit approval of their heinous acts. For Jews –who have been persecuted for centuries–to stand by and let another group be targeted–is an utter shame.
Tough economic times breed the sort of scapegoating that led to the Holocaust. How disheartening to find America in 2010 scapegoating immigrants, Muslims and gays. Tolerance has no season, no party affiliation. It is an American ideal, one sadly, that has yet to be fully realized in a nation that still tosses around anger and prejudice in a society that remains more salad bowl than melting pot.
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-2Little Miss Moonbat:
“What’s wrong with this picture?”
Nothing at all. A certain segment of the homosexual fraction of the population have transgressed the bounds of tolerance that society is willing to accord them, and this is the backlash to keep them, if not in the closet, then discreet and circumspect.
Obviously, you don’t like it, but your feelings are only important to you,(as mine are only to me).
Schoolchildren getting taunted, (ostensibly by other children), are being educated by their peer group that open homosexuality is not without negative consequences.
What do you propose to do? Pass a law and throw every fourth-grader in prison who calls a swishy classmate a “faggot”?
Good luck with that…let me know how it works out.
“But to re-visit such ignorance and hatred is unthinkable.”
Ahhh, a moonbat who facilely slings the terms “hatred” and “ignorance”, (is there any other kind?), at viewpoints with which she disagrees!
(This choice of “Moonbat Magic Words” is code that lets anyone with half a brain know that there will be no honest debate or open discussion here…this article is simply a bubble-headed little parrot’s political squawking…sit back and watch the fireworks, folks!)
“Teachers–regardless of sexual proclivities–shouldn’t be discussing their sex lives with students. If a teacher is teaching chemistry or English or history, how is his or her sex life relevant?”
I absolutely agree about adult sexuality having absolutely NO PLACE in a scholastic environment, but here’s where it’s relevant:
Fast forward 20 years or so, and you will have managed to whelp a pup of your own, he’s now in early high school, a bit geeky, so he’s not the most popular guy with the girls.
Then Mr. Bruce the Student Counselor, (who happens to be Gay),invites YOUR son to a social circle, (that happens to be Gay), and they are all very positive and accepting and gives YOUR son a sense of belonging.
If YOUR son needs a car ride, someone in the group,(who happens to be Gay), obliges.
If YOUR son is bored and wants to just hang out, there will always be someone from this circle,(who just happens to be Gay), for him to practice chillaxin’ with.
If YOUR son wants to score some beer or some weed, someone of the group, (who happens to be Gay), will supply him.
When YOUR son needs advice from an adult, guess who, (who happens to be Gay), will be there to listen and then impart an opinion that just happens naturally to be one that promotes a homosexual POV…
I reckon that YOUR son will “discover” that he’s homosexual inside of a year or two…and that will be when the seduction that he’s been subjected to will be consummated…
(Ever known anyone who has joined a cult? Ms. Arkawy? That’s how it’s done…and homosexuality is largely a cult).
The relevance is that if the Mother (remember that would be YOU), sees anything at all wrong with any of this process…for any reason…you will have been rendered powerless to step in and stop it.
Anything out of you OTHER than absolutely unconditional acceptance and affirmation of what was, until 1973, considered a mental illness by the APA, (1994 by the WHO), will avail you nothing more than being labeled an :”ignorant and hateful homophobe”.
Mark me words, girlie…Karma is a HARD mofo. You let it loose and it eventually circles around and comes back to sit on your head.
That’s the other feature that marks many homosexuals as being no different than Branch Davidians, People’s Templars or Heaven’s Gaters: all cults absolutely MUST have an actively inimical majority “enemy” to keep the thralls in the mental chains they have been bound up in,
They cannot survive without the outsiders.
And if there are no enemy outsiders, they will be created by the cult.
Parents are usually the first to be so designated.
“The real fear, of course, is the bogus notion that gay teachers will indoctrinate or brainwash kids into following a “homosexual lifestyle.” ”
That’s not bogus, that is factual.
When I was 15 I had a job pumping gas,(back when people had the option of full gasoline service), wanna guess how many anonymous phone calls I received at the gas station from adult male perverted sexual deviants?
How many of the recently uncovered sexual misconduct in the Roman Catholic clergy has been of a heterosexual nature?
It seems that certain segments of what you call “Gay” are particularly attracted to young…very young sexual partners, and actively seek positions of trust and authority over youth.
So, yes, they would naturally want to be teachers.
What for?
The lavish pay?
The benefits package offered by the school board?
(I’ll pause while those who DO work in the schools stop snickering).
Here’s a homework assignment for you designed to increase your own knowledge:
Ask your personal homosexual male friends about their first homosexual experience. Find out if the partner who “popped their cherry” was older than they were. If that was the case, try and find out HOW MUCH older the partner was.
Report back to the class here and let’s discuss the results.
“Let’s forget decades of scientific research that clearly supports the biological theory of homosexuality. ”
Really? I wasn’t aware the jury had rendered a definitive verdict.
Is there a gene that can soon be tested for, like an amniocentesis?
Because vast swathes of American society may have to rethink it’s positions on abortion, on BOTH sides, y’know…
There may be hope for you before YOU get educated out of YOUR ignorant and hateful worldview…the painful and tearful way, it all depends on how open-minded about disagreeing arguments you are willing to be.
Frankly, though, if pressed, I’d have to put my money on you learning your folly decades from now the hard way.
Your ignorance and intolerance, Bilgeman,are matched by your loquacity.
There are some things that are not meant to be tolerated.
To insist that they be tolerated is simply to spend one’s life pushing on a rope, and one has to pretty highly educated to be so stoopid as to not know the difference.
When you do learn the difference, you have set foot on the path of wisdom.
Like I said, I reckoned your mind was so closed as to be nearly armored.
You didn’t disappoint, (although you did…THIS is the quality of thinking that merits a Master’s Degree?)
I almost pity someone of your abject naiivete, but for the damage you are capable of, and are inflicting…of course you can always excuse yourself while sitting amidst the wreckage that you helped to cause and wail:
“But I MEANT well!”
“Your ignorance and intolerance, Bilgeman,are matched by your loquacity.”
Thankee very kindly.
“There are some things that are not meant to be tolerated.”
as far as i am concerned u are right, i don’t tolerate, biggots……
Peculiar, yet predictable.
“Biggot!”….”Faggot!”….a difference of one vowel and one consonant, but the treatment is pretty similar, huh?
Exactly so.
The other difference being that the former label is a subjective derogatory judgment, while the latter is an objective derogatory description.
And that’s how it is on the playground of the Little Purple Schoolhouse of Tolerance and Inclusiveness…
Thanks for the sterling example, am, I couldn’t have hoped for a better one…right down to your inspired misspelling of the word “bigot”.
It was PERFECT to demonstrate the point of your own hypocrisy.
I can’t believe what I just read. Do you happen to own a rifle and have a twitch in your left eye? OGM stay away from clocktowers, parks and multitudes!!!
[Forgive the double post, but I missed the \"reply\" link when I first wrote.]
Bilgeman, since you clearly value open and honest debate, and since you came here to present a contrarian view, please tell us:
What would persuade you that homosexuality is not a choice?
What would persuade you that homosexuals do not recruit the way that you describe?
And since taunting is usually associated with hatred and ignorance, why do you seem to believe that taunting of suspected gays is *not* based on hatred and ignorance? What other kinds of taunting exist, and where can we learn more about them?
I ask these questions in all sincerity, and I await a sincere answer.
“What would persuade you that homosexuality is not a choice?”
I am persuaded already that there are strong indications that SOME homosexuality is indeed biologically caused.
As I alluded to above, and being rather known for being somewhat blunt, let me be clear here:
That means that it can be cured. Or barring that, tested for and corrected…or aborted.
This raises the rather peculiar possibility that sometime in the future the only living homosexuals will be the children of observant Roman Catholics and Mormons and other faiths for whom the abortionist’s craft is anathema.
God WILL have His Little Jokes, yes? On us all..
Now this doesn’t mean that every fellow who has bobbed on a knob should be institutionalized with the straight jackets and the ice-water sheets and the electro-shock therapy, (although there ARE some who are in dire need of the really good pharmaceuticals that send you on a 7 day cruise to HappyLand)..
For some, no therapy other than a tasteful housewarming gift is necessary.
Most prolly fall somewhere in between…maybe a 12 step program? Earn key-rings on your way to heterosexuality?
But now for some people, the homosexual lifestyle is indeed a choice, and prolly about as self-destructive a one as say, smoking cigarettes, (the death rate for both groups being about par IIRC, someone more motivated can go google up the life expectancies…I’m going out for a Winston).
I don’t see earnest little overedumacated bubble-heads writing screeds about society’s “hatred” and “intolerance” towards me and my Lung Buddies.
Far from it.
And that’s okay. I’m a grown man and can take my lumps, (literally and medically), for the poor choices that I have made.
“What would persuade you that homosexuals do not recruit the way that you describe?”
Not much, since I was the target of attempted recruitment on more than one occasion.
To be blunt about it, in my twenties, if there was a queer in the saloon, I could usually reckon on a free beer or two.
But then the greatest arguments that homosexuals recruit lies in two areas:
First: “Coming Out” seems to be a one-way door.
If a person can “discover” that they’re Gay, can they not then ALSO “discover” that they are Straight?
Doesn’t seem to be the case…at least not publicized and embraced by the Gay Cult Media.
And yet I understand that this is a not-uncommon occurrence among lesbians…they end up falling in love with a man.
Trying to keep people “in” and excoriating those who break free is another hallmark of cult, (and gang),behavior.
Secondly, there’s that ole debbil, biology, the birds n’ the bees.
I’m sure that you can see where homosexual heredity would be a rather tough row to hoe, given that an aversion to sexual congress with a person of the opposite gender is about the most fool-proof birth control method yet invented.
Again, to be blunt about it:
If homosexuals don’t recruit, why are they not extinct?
“And since taunting is usually associated with hatred and ignorance, ”
It is? In every case? Usually associated with by whom?
“…why do you seem to believe that taunting of suspected gays is *not* based on hatred and ignorance?”
Because Gays seem to believe that in the tragicomic soap opera of their own lives, all taunting can ONLY have its genesis in the Moonbat Magic Words.
Honestly, dude…more overwrought drama than a backstage fire at an Italian opera house.
“What other kinds of taunting exist, and where can we learn more about them?”
Pardon me for asking, but you DID attend school, did you not?
Remember the fat girl? How about the ugly kid? Or the one who stuttered?
D’ye reckon that THEY never got their turn at taking a bite of the fecal biscuit? Was it “ignorance and hate” that caused everyone to laugh at the spazzy kid trying to play kickball?
No, not really.
So what makes queers so SPECIAL?
Society enforces its ideals at the schoolyard level via taunting and ridicule of the outliers.(even homosexual society does this). This isn’t political in nature, rather politics is a reflection of the society.
I’m afraid that it has ever been, and will always be so.
I’m traveling for the next two or three days or so…my monniker being occupationally related to my work-spaces, so I’ll be off-net for a while, but as you seem to be interested in an open discussion on the matter, I’ll check back in when I’m back under the satellite.
It’ll be interesting to see how many inmates of this moonbat monkey house stop by to yammer and howl and fling poo at the eeeeevil homophobe.
Maybe I can recruit you into a nice little house with a white picket fence, a gang of ankle-biting tricycle-motors squealing around in the backyard, and a Donna Reed-type female cooking you dinner before “cleaning yer pipes”, eh?
A funny rhetorical question I saw asked on another blog:
If we’re supposed to refer to someone who believes he is a woman trapped in a man’s body as “transsexual”, should we refer to a man who believes he is Napoleon Bonaparte as “transhistorical”?
This comment might be one of the most disheartening things I’ve read in recent history.
Addendum: I am going to sleep easier tonight because I am going to pretend that the author, Bilgeman, is writing satirically to expose some of the obtuse, faulty logic of people of this ilk.
Bilgeman, I asked you some questions to see whether you were truly interested in open and honest debate. If you were, you’d admit to the possibility that you’re wrong. Instead, you showed even more clearly than before that nothing can shake you from your own personal sense of infallibility.
I have nothing to learn from you, because you mistake your opinion for knowledge. And you clearly are not willing to learn from me.
You can try to repair this impression that you’ve given, if you care to, but I’m not holding my breath.
“I asked you some questions to see whether you were truly interested in open and honest debate.”
And I answered. You apparently didn’t care for my answers…well, chum, that’s YOUR problem and not mine.
“If you were, you’d admit to the possibility that you’re wrong.”
Of course it’s possible that I’m wrong, are YOU willing to reciprocate my amazing act of magnanimous open-mindedness?
Probably not.
“I have nothing to learn from you, because you mistake your opinion for knowledge.”
Uh-huh…I’ll mark you down as a “Nope” in the “open discussion” box as you flounce off in a high snit.
“And you clearly are not willing to learn from me.”
Ahhhh, that is where you are wrong. I’d be fascinated by any rejoinder you’d care to make to my reply to THIS query that you posed:
“What would persuade you that homosexuals do not recruit the way that you describe?”
Okay…I shared my view and personal experience of how homosexuals recruit.
You say it doesn’t happen,(am I “wrong” about what I personally experienced?), so why don’t you share with the class how you DO recruit?
THAT you recruit is an established fact….
“You can try to repair this impression that you’ve given, if you care to, but I’m not holding my breath.”
Well, don’t hold your breath too long, since I’m sure that a blue face would clash with your sweater.
Funny, though, that it seems that I’ve tried to have a discussion with you here, and you’ve apparently decided to suffer an attack of the vapors and are taking to your bed with a cold compress and a cup of chamomile tea.
Whatever. ..get well soon or drop dead, whichever you prefer.
It’s obviously not like I’m consumed with concern over your opinion of me.
“What would persuade you that homosexuality is not a choice?”
because people told us…
are u gay? if so they u might know better.
but for now, i thnk i will trust other more rational people
Honestly Bilgeman, the more you say the more you dig yourself into a hole.
The worst (funniest?) part was the stuff about getting ‘recruited’ a lot. Seriously, homosexuals are exactly like heterosexuals. That is to say, homosexuals tend to try hitting on potential ‘mates’ based on whether they appear receptive. So, really, it’s not that gay men are trying to ‘recruit’ you, it’s just that you happen to seem gay and that makes you attractive to them. Considering how many homophobes turn out to be gay, I’m betting you probably are too. You’d be a lot happier if you’d just admit it.
“Seriously, homosexuals are exactly like heterosexuals”
As far as that goes, you might be correct, but I wouldn’t exactly claim that as some kind of “sales pitch”, (if you think about it honestly).
There’s quite a cornucopia of deviants and perversions over on the Straight side, too.
And if you’re going to claim exact parity with Straight sexual behaviors, then you’re going to have to admit that Gays have sexual defectoids too…
(and the minute you do that, you’ll be sent an official membership card and a Certificate…suitable for framing…in the “Ignorant and Hateful Homophobes’ Club”.)
Try it and see if I’m lying.
“Considering how many homophobes turn out to be gay, I’m betting you probably are too. You’d be a lot happier if you’d just admit it.”
Awww, gee, that’s mighty sweet of you, but I’m not your father.
Maybe he could have benefited from this solicitous advice of yours.
Just pray YOUR son doesn’t turn out to be gay or your daughter a lesbian, or else, who can you blame? – certainly not your precious genes. I for one don’t care how my children turn out, as long as they have us as loving parents – as it should be.
“gays ( and single women who engage in out of wedlock sex) shouldn’t be allowed to teach.”
Implying what? That it’s OK for MEN who engage in out-of-wedlock sex to teach? Nice double standard there. Don’t forget the grits with your chauvinist pig dinner.
A guy who cheats on his wife, and fathers a child with a mistress, has no right to tell anyone else that their marriage would be wrong.
And a guy who hates the clothes at the Gay Pride parade ought to speak out just as loudly – if not more so! – at the skimpy outfits people wear at the Carribean and Puerto Rican Day parades.
Palladino is a bigot who picks and chooses the “rules” he thinks need to be followed. He has NO place running for New York governor.
Homosexuality is something you get sucked into. Palladino for prez in 2012
Right jay jay…it’s a giant game of “Red Rover, Red Rover.”
Carl Paladino is right and I applaud him for the having the guts to speak the TRUTH … that homosexuality is a disgraceful and dysfunctional lifestyle, that homosexual parades are not suitable for children, and that there is a “homosexual brainwashing” going on (especially in the public schools).
Acceptance of homosexuality has nothing to do with being “progressive” and a great deal to do with being a “coward”. If some liberal freak says “Crap smells good, and if you don’t agree, then I’m going to call you a bigot!” Well, if you still have some common sense and a spine in your back, then you are going to say “Crap stinks. Always did, always will.” Same goes for homosexuality.
Innnnnteresting…y’know, whenever a gay man gets all pissy and whiny, those around him refer to him as a “Mary.” Just sayin’….
As for your worship of Paladino, you’re entitled to your opinion. I just hope your opinion doesn’t cost you someone you love–a son/daughter, niece/nephew, cousin, etc.
Thanks for such an eloquent analysis, Amy Beth.
Paladino and Demint are two examples of the worst kind of politician: the publicity hounding panderer. Crazy Carl, as you call him, knew exactly what he was doing baiting Cuomo and the media with his anti-gay nonsense.And it worked: he landed on all the network morning shows. Unfortuantely his rhetoric and that of DeMint and a variety of other Tea Partiers only gives permission to the haters to spew their venom and worse their violence.
From reading the comments here, it looks like you’e on target when you call this Anita Bryant’s America. While we have made some strides in the areas of gay rights and multi-cultural tolerance, the ignorant still walk among us in disturbing numbers.
What will it take for people to really “live and let live?”
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+1“But no one chooses to be gay anymore than you choose your race or gender.”
–> See, here, what you really meant was “sex,” not gender. Gender is fluid, m’lady.
Isn’t Bilgeman lucky we live in America and there is Freedom of Speech, but thankfully we don’t have to listen or read what he says or writes! Is there no end to this gay bashing? Live and let live is what I say! Enough of this nonsense. People are what they are. Too bad we can’t all be more tolerant of one another.
Bilgeman that level of hatred can only come from your own self loathing
Interesting article. I think that certain posters here have hatred for gay people based on some past experience and insecurity as a result. If he isn’t gay himself then why did he keep getting hit on by people at a gas station or in other arenas. I rarely had this problem though i am gay. On rare occasion yes but nothing like what he claims. Most gay people I have ever known have nothing to do with pedophilia and find it detestable or at least distasteful. There are others in my own family (I live in the south) who claim that being gay is only about sex. Despite that they’ve never known other gay people or spent time around such people. Then I exclaim that I have personal experience that they don’t in this regard and they still will not listen. Well, some people just have a point of view that they will not change and are quite full in their belief in perfect truth and infallibility of all things that they claim to know from their religious texts. This is very dangerous but they have a right to their opinion. That is my two cents worth for today.
to me i think u can be wateva u want to be………but on the other hand its nasty because its the same sex as you nd its not right………nd god doesnt approve…………..if you are gay then dats ok but dont drag your partner in it nd giv her HIV nd all dat be out with it. *SIGNED:ruby*
It helps to understand where Bilgeman and his ilk are coming from. This from Wikipedia:
“In Genesis 18:2, God sends three men, thought by most commentators to have been angels appearing as men, to Abraham in the plains of Mamre. After the angels received the hospitality of Abraham and Sarah, his wife, God reveals to Abraham that he will investigate Sodom and Gomorrah, because their cry is great, “and because their sin is very grievous.” In response, Abraham reverently inquires of God if he would spare the city if 50 righteous people were found in it, then 45, then 30, then 20 or even 10, with God affirming he would not destroy it after each request, for the sake of the righteous yet dwelling therein. Two of the angels of God proceed to Sodom and are met by Abraham’s righteous nephew Lot, who convinces the angels to lodge with him, and they eat with his family.
“Genesis 19:4-5 describes what followed, which confirms its end (Revised Standard Version of the Bible):
“But before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, both young and old, all the people to the last man, surrounded the house; and they called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us, that we may know them (King James Version: know them; Revised Standard Version: know them; New International Version: can have sex with them; New Jerusalem Bible: can have intercourse with them).”
“In response, Lot refuses to give his guests to the inhabitants of Sodom and, instead, offers them his two virgin daughters to “do to them whatever you like.” However, they refuse this offer and threaten to do worse to Lot than they would have done to his guests. And they lunged toward Lot to break down the door. Lot’s angelic guests rescue him and strike the men with blindness. Then, they command Lot to gather his family and leave, revealing that they were sent to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah. As they make their escape, the angels command Lot and his family not to look back under any circumstance. However, as Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed with fire and brimstone by God, Lot’s wife looks back longingly at the city in defiance of the angels’ specific command not to look back and she becomes a pillar of salt.”
So there you have it. God hates fags. Note how He portrays them as encroaching and impertinent. “When God is with you, who can be against you?” I think it says somewhere in the Bible, and certainly God is with homosexual-haters.
The reason the God of the Old Testament is so against homosexuality is mainly because of his insistence for people to procreate. Now this was very useful when there were fewer people around, say in 2000 BC. But in today’s world, it would be more beneficial for all of us if there were MORE homosexuals and lesbians, as they can’t reproduce. Hell, they’d even adopt babies from unwanted pregnancies, so it’s a win-win situation. No need for abortions, another Christian pet peeve.
Let’s agree to disagree. I’m not afraid of homosexuals, and I don’t consider them perverts. (Hell, maybe I’m a homo, since I don’t find them repulsive like Bilgeman obviously does.) This is just a religious bias; I hope that given enough time, maybe another 1000 years, we learn to accept our differences and not be repulsed by them. I pray for sanity and common sense. I know, I shouldn’t be praying, for you will accuse me of being an atheist, but I do believe in God, just not the vengeful, needy God of the Old Testament. Peace out.
seems like several hear have never heard the following…sticks and stones can break my bones but names can never hurt me….
and whats yours is mine and whats mine is mine….get over it….you have the perfect right to believe that homosexuality is perfectally normal…I have the right to believe it is perfectally the oppsite of normal…your right to swing your fist ends at the end (or several inches) from the point of my nose….just because I call it sick does not make me any kind of hater of phobe…get over it…no one has to “accept” my beliefs any more than I have to accept theirs…
several here…not hear…my bad
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Excellent opening declaration: “Welcome to Anita Bryant’s America.” Spot on, Dolores: speak that truth to power!