1/3rd of Women in US Military Raped

According to NPR, “In 2003, a survey of female veterans found that 30 percent said they were raped in the military. A 2004 study of veterans who were seeking help for post-traumatic stress disorder found that 71 percent of the women said they were sexually assaulted or raped while serving. And a 1995 study of female veterans of the Gulf and earlier wars, found that 90 percent had been sexually harassed.”

The BBC recently reported on The Lonely Soldier: The Private War of Women Serving in Iraq by Helen Benedict. This book examines the extreme difficulties female soldiers have in serving abroad. Benedict interviewed several women in the military to get a deeper understanding of the issue, and some of their stories were real eye openers.

Army specialist Chantelle Henneberry spoke of some of her experiences in Iraq, “Everybody’s supposed to have a battle buddy in the army, and females are supposed to have one to go to the latrines with, or to the showers – that’s so you don’t get raped by one of the men on your own side. But because I was the only female there, I didn’t have a battle buddy. My battle buddy was my gun and my knife.”

Another study concluded that 90% of all women serving are sexually harassed. Another one estimates that 90% of all the rapes do not get reported, despite supposedly easier ways to report the crime with confidentiality since 2005. Either way, this appears to be an epidemic that needs to be dealt with.

An online discussion from a former soldier whose identity is being protected had this to say, “At least a rape ends. It’s the day-to-day degradation that eats at you. None of my friends who were raped on active duty reported it. Or if we tried, we were told to shut up for ‘morale.’ Working with your rapist on a daily basis isn’t a lot of fun, believe me.”

How the military is dealing with this appears to demonstrate a pattern of sweeping it under the rug. In 2008, 62% of those that were convicted of sexual assault or rape received very lenient punishments such as demotion, suspension, or a written reprimand.

This problem is not confined to the US military either. This abuse is rampant among private defense contractors overseas as well, as recently highlighted by the recent press about Jamie Leigh Jones. Ms. Jones was in Iraq in 2005 when seven Halliburton/KBR employees drugged and brutally gang-raped her. Her injuries were so extensive that she had lacerations to her vagina and anus, her breast implants were ruptured, and her pectoral muscles torn. The response of KBR was to lock her in a shipping container with only a bed, and to deny her food, water, and medical treatment. The rape kit that was taken after she regained consciousness was mysteriously lost.

This crime eventually led to an amendment being added to the defense appropriations bill by Sen. Al Franken (D-MN). This would require defense contractors to allow their employees access to US courts in cases of rape or sexual assault, regardless of where they are stationed. The 30 Republican senators voted against this amendment are currently being humiliated on the Republicans for Rape website and by John Stewart on the Daily Show.

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The culture of sexual violence against women that is allowed to exist in both the US military and private contractors needs to come to an end. When almost a third of all women serving are raped, and over two thirds sexually assaulted, this problem is rampant and systemic.


285 Responses to 1/3rd of Women in US Military Raped

  1. mr. obvious January 26, 2010 at 7:59 am

    The military is a rape machine. Even a cursory examination of military history will convince you of this. The military’s culture of masculinity and violence inevitably leads to rape. The situation has become complicated due to the success of bourgeois feminism and the opportunities to exploit and murder that it (bourgeois, second wave feminism) has provided to women (CEOs, police, military, etc.). Never before have there been females serving alongside males in the US military. Thus, instead of raping Vietnamese, Japanese, Italian or German civilian women, this generation of GIs rape each other.

    • Gonzobot January 26, 2010 at 9:49 am

      Too true. Men with tons of physical training and lots of fancy weaponry tend to become aggressive and dominant. Add to this the ‘conquer your enemies’ mantra that is so espoused in America, compound it by the fact that justice is on the other side of the planet, and now think of all the commanders and staff-sergeants who are male and will side with ‘their boys’. The entire operation makes me sick to my stomach; war is and always has been hell, but for some reason there are always willing volunteers to inflict it on other peoples of the world.

    • mr.wtf January 26, 2010 at 2:46 pm

      I don’t want to make any assumptions for the connotations of your message, but I’ll let you know that it could be interpreted as highly offensive. So, I will clarify rather than accuse. Yes, an increased number of female members of the military can be connected to feminism. However, you cannot BLAME feminism. They have done nothing wrong–only what’s right. The right to equality is one that we must bestow on all members of this nation and it’s part of what makes it great, though we still have so many shortcomings in this area. So to turn your head away from feminism is in truth to turn your way from the roots and principles of what America stands for.

      The only people to blame in this scenario are the men in the military who commit the rapes. They should removed from their unit, shipped back home, and given a trial and jail time if proven guilty. They don’t deserve to wear the uniform.

      Secondly, your last sentence could be interpreted as if it was less-bad that our military men were raping Japanese, Italian, or German civilian women. Our military men should not be raping ANYONE. Period. Civilians, enemies, squad members, it doesn’t matter. Our military should be professional and purposeful.

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  3. Eleni January 26, 2010 at 8:15 am

    “Never before have there been females serving alongside males in the US military” – that’s untrue, there were women who served in the Civil War and the Revolutionary War, mostly in drag. Sarah Emma Edmonds was a Canadian woman who fought in the Union Army under the alias Frank Thompson and was not discovered – she admitted it afterward. She was the only woman who fought in the war who received a military pension and who was buried in a military cemetery.

  4. mr. obvious January 26, 2010 at 8:23 am

    You’re absolutely right! Serving covertly (in drag) is identical to serving openly in a mixed gender unit. But seriously, how does this historical fact, while interesting, help us understand the inherent rape threat of the military?

    • between the lines January 26, 2010 at 6:45 pm

      It’s the type of people they let into the armed forces that have alot to do with the statistics…

      Most are dumb, sadistic lowlifes who chose to join the armed forces as an alternative to living in whatever ghetto they were born in.

      I heard that to qualify for the marines, the recruits need only score a 20% on the exam – with 10% coming from writing their names on the tests alone.

      In short, the armed forces are populated with beasts; and always will be.

      • GIkelliJo January 26, 2010 at 6:58 pm

        you sir/ma’am have no idea what you’re talking about. To say “MOST are dumb, sadistic lowlifes…” means you likely have never really known anyone in the military. I am a woman in the military and have been a victim of more than I want to say having been in a male-dominated career-field. There is a decent portion of folks in the military that are from an area where the military is their only way out. It’s also a way for some in an impoverished area to pay for college. Many have gone on to become doctors, lawyers and engineers.

        Personally, I am a terrible lowlife finishing up my PhD in clinical psychology… Before you say anything as ridiculous in the future, maybe try reading up first.

        You have no idea what it means to serve your country with honor. I’m fairly certain you don’t know the
        meaning of the word.

        In short, you are clueless as to the type of people who really make up the United States Armed Forces.

      • bascombe January 26, 2010 at 8:40 pm

        is a trailer park a ghetto?

      • Benjamin January 26, 2010 at 8:53 pm

        Wow, that is the most ridiculous this I have ever heard. First, to generalize something like that is insane, not only are you insulting everyone in the military, but also making claim that people that live in impoverished areas are automatically dump lowlifes. Second, the Marines have the highest requirements for scores in all areas, whether physical or intellectual. Even if they didn’t why are you correlating low intelligence with rapists and criminals? The two have nothing to do with each other. There are plenty of rapes committed at colleges or in affluent neighborhoods.
        These statistics are not too different from statistics you see for Firefighters, Police Officers, or many other walks of life. The problem is in the military it is being reported far less and appropriate action is not always being taken. A change from the top down needs to occur emphasizing how much of a scumbag you have to be to do something like that, there needs to be a cultural shift. It has nothing to do with the type of people joining the military, and everything to do with the way the issue is currently being handled.

  5. toby January 26, 2010 at 8:27 am

    The % of rape victims in the military parallels that of society as a whole. Google it. Next.

    • TobyIzAzzHole January 26, 2010 at 8:49 am

      Toby: “The % of rape victims in the military parallels that of society as a whole. Google it. Next.”… so, according to you, it is OK.

      • Gonzobot January 26, 2010 at 9:43 am

        The idea is that there is no more or less rape in the military than in regular life, so there is no need for an ‘exposey’ on military rape. Why do you think rape is acceptable to society, so much so that the numbers are so high? Why aren’t you fighting ALL rape? Why do you assume its OK for regular not-enlisted rape to occur?

        YOU are the moron here.

        • raffa January 26, 2010 at 10:30 am

          toby – if you’re right, and %30 of women are raped as a whole, that’s DURING THEIR LIFETIME, right? this military statistic is DURING THEIR TIME IN THE ARMY. that’s a big difference.

        • toph January 26, 2010 at 11:13 pm

          “exposey” Really? Don’t use the Moron if you can’t hold up your end of the bargain.

    • nosyt January 26, 2010 at 3:55 pm

      they should just put out or get out. next story.

      • Anonymous January 26, 2010 at 4:33 pm

        You are a moron. Period. Please refrain from commenting ever again.

        • Bill January 26, 2010 at 7:47 pm

          I think nosyt was just being sarcastic.

  6. Anonymous January 26, 2010 at 8:46 am

    “In 2008, 62% of those that were convicted of sexual assault or rape received very lenient punishments such as demotion, suspension, or a written reprimand.”

    Yeah… that’s what happens when there’s no evidence anything happened.

    • W. Tom January 26, 2010 at 9:24 am

      Ok Mr. Anonymous. So your telling me if there is no evidence a rape is ok? You really need to rethink your views on woman. They aren’t toys for men to use to our pleasure.

      • Gonzobot January 26, 2010 at 9:44 am

        And men aren’t angry sociopaths that deserve to die, but that’s what feminists believe. Do you honestly think that if crime could be passed judgment on without any evidence that it would NOT be abused?

        A woman who says she was raped and has no evidence of it is a liar. Rape leaves marks, residue, wounds. If it doesn’t, she either never got raped, or was a willing consensual partner to sex. If you’re not saying no, you’re not being raped!

        • Samantha January 26, 2010 at 10:00 am

          We don’t believe that at all! Quit throwing lies around, I’m tired of feminism being a bad word.

          If there’s no evidence then no action can be taken; no one can reasonably disagree with you there. But in the cases this article talks about, there is plenty of evidence. Are you really going to defend those people? This article isn’t about men being unfairly accused of rape, because it almost never happens. Most women who are raped don’t tell people about it because people either call them liars, or say it was their fault for not struggling enough to appear visibly beaten.

          • Gonzobot January 26, 2010 at 12:42 pm

            If you don’t take steps to make sure your attacker is brought to justice, then yes it is your fault. Not for getting raped, but for it being worthless. Why wouldn’t you struggle if you’re about to be raped? Is the train of thought ‘Oh, no, he’s going to rape me! I had better do what he says or else I might get hurt!’ Then why is rape a bad thing? Isn’t rape hurtful? Shouldn’t you want to avoid that hurt just as much as a punch for struggling? Shouldn’t you, as a concious person cognizant of the laws and requirements for evidence, want to do as much as possible to make sure he is identified, like scratching his face or ripping his clothing?

            As to feminism, feminists are by definition a group of women who believe themselves to be above the male gender, and that anything with a penis is inferior, sad, and unfortunately still necessary. Anybody who identifies as a feminist is self-identifying as a man hater, period. That is the definition, and you can’t argue it. If you don’t like it, stop calling yourself a feminist, especially if you don’t actually think that way! If you believe in equality, then you’re an EQUALIST. If you believe girls are better than boys, and that that belief needs to be fought for, then you’re a feminist.

            • Samantha January 26, 2010 at 12:55 pm

              Merriam webster’s definition of feminism: Main Entry: fem·i·nism
              Pronunciation: \?fe-m?-?ni-z?m\
              Function: noun
              Date: 1895

              1 : the theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes
              2 : organized activity on behalf of women’s rights and interests

              — fem·i·nist \-nist\ noun or adjective

              — fem·i·nis·tic \?fe-m?-?nis-tik\ adjective

              Feminism is for equality between the sexes, not for either one to be held in higher regard than the other. If you’re ignorant, get your facts straight, and if you’re lying than stop it!

              • Menelaus January 26, 2010 at 10:28 pm

                You can define a word anyway you want. The true test of that definition is reality.

                Feminists claim to want equal pay for equal work. But if they can’t meet the physical requirements they want them lowered and then they want the same pay as men who met the higher standards.

                Feminists claim to want equal rights with men, but they oppose men having equal rights with women.

                They oppose equal reproductive rights, property rights, marital rights, parental rights, child custody rights and on and on.

                Oh yeah and they advocate the continued stripping away of basic constitutional rights of men.

                Right to face their accuser in a court of law.
                Right to equal treatment under the law.
                Right to due process.

                Why? Because women are special.

                My definition of Feminism?

                “We’re all equal, but women are more equal.

            • Emperor Norton the Second January 26, 2010 at 12:56 pm

              Your definition of feminism is great for someone who wants to tear it down. It is a nicely calculated lie. If you ask young women if they should get equal pay and all the other things the feminists fought for, they say yes. If youy ask them if they are feminists they say no. This is the result of people like yourself lying about what feminism is to try to make it a dirty word. I am a man. I am a feminist. I choose to have a relationship with a woman who is my equal. How does that fit in too your tiny brain? Feminism is about equality, not domination. Afraid of losing your privileges? awww. Typical republican. No empathy for anyone. It is all about you, you, you.

              News flash. Iit is not all about you.

              • Gonzobot January 26, 2010 at 1:56 pm

                Apparently you need to look up the definition of equality. Equal rights means everybody is equal; nobody is better than anybody else. How many feminists have you seen saying ‘We’re happy we’re equal! Status quo is acceptable to society!’? Now think of how many you’ve seen proclaiming the terrible sins of mankind, ‘burning bras’ and the like?

              • Samantha January 27, 2010 at 9:21 am

                Lets just end the feminism argument right now, okay? We think we’re arguing for equality, they think we want to lower the place of men in society and burn bras and things like they did in the early sixties. The movement has evolved since then, and we don’t need to automatically take the word of the women without seeing evidence first. We don’t need to automatically accuse them of lying and hating men either. I think there needs to be a serious investigation, and if the claims are found to be true there should be hell to pay. If not, any woman who would lie about something like that deserves to get the punishment that she would have brought upon her sexual partner.

            • Liz January 26, 2010 at 9:21 pm

              It would be funny how ignorant you are, if it wasn’t so pathetic.

              Feminism is not synonymous with man-hating – it never has been, it never will be – and people like you are the reason the term has been re-constructed into such a dirty word. Feminism represents the simple fact that women are actually Human (shock, I know), and deserve the same goddamn rights as men.

              That, my friend, is the broad and basic definition of feminism. So before you start spewing vitriol, please do some research, and maybe grown a brain.

              • Menelaus January 26, 2010 at 10:31 pm

                No. The reason feminism is a dirty word is because of people like you and those who believe every word of this article.

                Not one link to any study or any name of any study was mentioned. No researchers were cited. Methods and population survey size was not revealed.

                You believe this story because you hate men and you are willing to believe the most outrageous and slanderous story without any evidence.

                This is why feminism is a dirty word. You reveal your hatred in everything you do and say.

          • Menelaus January 26, 2010 at 10:20 pm

            Actually men are more likely to be accused falsely of rape than women are to be raped. Try doing some actual research that doesn’t involve a feminist propaganda site.

            And I didn’t see ANY evidence in this article. Not one study was cited by name. None of the researchers were named. None of the methods were disclosed.

            It was nothing but accusations and no proof.

            In one breath you claim to not hate men and in the next you believe every accusation made against them without proof.

            • Samantha January 27, 2010 at 9:42 am

              And no, I don’t believe everything I read with no proof. I just don’t think they should automatically be called liars either. Neither side has enough evidence right now, because not enough research has been done on the topic. But at least we all know that the issue exists, and hopefully we’ll be able to find out whether the problem lies with the men or the women.

              • Samantha January 27, 2010 at 9:43 am

                There was a first part to my comment that I must have accidentally deleted: I said I would be glad to look at the research you have found that states the opposite of mine. I’m always ready to see all sides of any story, just post the link please!

              • Menelaus January 27, 2010 at 11:13 am

                Plenty of studies have been done according to the article. But let’s see those studies.

                I heard the 30% number comes from a population of women claiming post traumatic stress disorder and not the whole population of women in the military.

                That makes a huge difference doesn’t it?

                But those subtleties don’t matter when feminists want to make a propaganda show.

                Hate men much?

        • SorryGonzo January 26, 2010 at 9:24 pm

          Actually, in a legal sense, if aren’t saying “yes” then you are being raped.

          • Menelaus January 26, 2010 at 10:23 pm

            No means no.

            That’s the only “legal sense” that matters.

            • Samantha January 27, 2010 at 9:47 am

              Indeed. If you say no, and they do it anyway, it’s rape.

      • Anonymous January 26, 2010 at 10:00 am

        No… I’m saying in many of these cases, no evidence exists of the Rape or Sexual Assault.

        Hard to prove anything beyond a reasonable doubt in those circumstances.

        Get off your high horse.

        • Samantha January 27, 2010 at 9:46 am

          If you don’t qualify your arguments, people assume that it’s all you have to say on the topic. Both sides are doing it, so don’t take it personally.

  7. Wade Wilson January 26, 2010 at 9:00 am

    Don’t underestimate the pettiness of female GIs. I did a tour of duty in Iraq and I can say without a doubt that the women were easily ten times as spiteful as the men. There was one case I saw where a woman reported a rape and the case was dropped because evidence surfaced that showed the sex was completely consensual; there wasn’t even alcohol involved. She said it was rape purely as an attack against the man, who she disliked for personal reasons.

    She wasn’t punished in the slightest.

    • Miscreant January 26, 2010 at 10:07 am

      This happens all too often both in the military and civilian world. It is those women in particular who make it so hard for those that have been legitimately violated to be taken seriously. The punishment for women who do this should be as bad as a rapist.

    • soldier January 26, 2010 at 2:46 pm

      One female soldier i served with tried to say she was raped because her husband caught her!

  8. B January 26, 2010 at 9:02 am

    My wife was raped in the army overseas, two of her friends she knew had also been raped. None of them reported it, ended up destroying our marriage. I can believe it because majority of them probably do not report it. Especially if on deployment, its just handled internally… or not at all.

    • B is Mr Mom January 26, 2010 at 9:28 am

      Did the rape destroy your marriage of the fact she was the breadwinner and you were Mr. Mom, unable to support her.

    • Gonzobot January 26, 2010 at 9:46 am

      Why didn’t she report it, EXACTLY? What did she expect would happen, the magical retribution fairy would come down from the clouds and paint horrible mustaches on the perpetrators? Your exwife is a moron, and I’m glad to say its not MY country that people like that are ‘protecting’.

      • Ummmm January 26, 2010 at 11:27 am

        Um. I’m just gonna throw this out there……

        It’s likely she cheated.

        • Menelaus January 26, 2010 at 10:35 pm

          +1 on that.

      • GIkelliJo January 26, 2010 at 7:06 pm

        You do realize that in the civilian world 60% of rapes go unreported. This number only rises in the military. While I can’t speak of the specifics of B’s situation, the fact remains…Most women feel ashamed, unable to accept the reality. Some even begin to believe that they didn’t fight back enough. If a gun is to your head, will you fight back if you’re without a weapon? There are tons of reasons women think of to not report a rape.

        Calling a rape victim a moron is just ridiculous. You have no idea.

        • Gonzobot January 26, 2010 at 8:37 pm

          I’m calling the SOLDIER, who managed to be raped and yet have no evidence of it whatsoever, a moron. Because if you are a soldier, you KNOW how to hurt somebody. If you’re being raped, you’ve got ample time in which to inflict serious damage – not only for proof later, but to stop the rape itself!

          Women on the street will perhaps have a different take on fighting back, but why would they ever think to themselves “This rapist doesn’t need to be brought to justice for the things he did to me. He doesn’t need to be locked up to prevent other women from being hurt like I was.”?

          In other words, how can you be raped and then not report it, AND THEN you feel ashamed about being raped? All you’ve done is made sure there is a rapist running free, while you suffer alone.

        • Menelaus January 26, 2010 at 10:38 pm

          If 60% of rapes go unreported then how do they know that 60% of rapes when unreported?

          Because they made it up by using a “feminist” definition of rape so broad as to include most consensual sex.

          Were you drinking? –yes— Then it was RAPE! –but he was drinking too.–Doesn’t matter it was still rape.

  9. Anon January 26, 2010 at 9:29 am

    I think those figures are far too high, to me those are just the people who “claimed” to be raped, there is no way to tell if they are telling the truth or not. If there is one thing I know about women is that they routinely cry wolf whenever they want to stick it to an innocent man. Even if some were actually raped (highly doubtful) how many brought it upon themselves by cock teasing the men in the service? Women want it both ways, they want to be flirts and stir up the guys but don’t want to take responsibility for their own actions. When men are fighting a war, the last thing they need is women around to seduce and then back stab them, for morals sake they just need to get in line and stop stirring up trouble

  10. Jim January 26, 2010 at 9:32 am

    serving their country. he.. he..

  11. Morton January 26, 2010 at 9:44 am

    Wow, just like in Hollywood movies and on TV every night.
    You in the media love violence, you sex it up, just look at the current films.
    You admire male stars and rappers who promote death and rape.
    You pay for it willingly.
    You are no better, no different then the men you now spit on in the army.
    Except, of course, they get caught, while you wank off your vile fantasies in dark theaters or in front of your TVs.

  12. Fred January 26, 2010 at 9:50 am

    Try as the faminazis might, the laws of biology, like the law of gravity, can’t be repealed. Put male and female in close proximity, what do you expect?

    Perhaps —- duh — this is why women shouldn’t be in the military. Old-fashioned as it may sound, women need to be protected away from the extreme emotion and stress of military life.

    Argue all you want. If they’re not protected, they get raped. Period. Evidence is clear. Lives are ruined. Wake up ! Observe the facts: men and women are different, physically, biologically, emotionally. The best lives for each are different paths, not assuming they are the same.

    • Gonzobot January 26, 2010 at 11:40 am

      So in your mind, rape by highly trained professional military personnel is not only acceptable but EXPECTED? You’re a disgusting example of humanity.

      • Tony January 26, 2010 at 12:12 pm

        Gonzo, it seems that you are hopping comment-to-comment taking everyone’s words out of context to make yourself look more moralistic or something to that matter. I’ve ignored it twice going through these comments, this is the third so I had to point it out.

        Fred did not say it was acceptable, that being the only thing your comment picks at him for. He did say it is to be expected, but that point was proven true by the article you’re defending. Get over yourself.

        • Gonzobot January 26, 2010 at 1:24 pm

          Sorry, but I happen to think rape is an important subject worth discussion. I also happen to think that no matter the argument, if you’re implying that rape is OK then you’re a fool.

          If the obvious answer to women being raped in the military is that women don’t belong in the military, then there is something wrong with your line of thinking! Anytime rape is ‘to be expected’ is WRONG. Doesn’t matter what the time is, or the circumstances.

          • Tony January 26, 2010 at 1:41 pm

            Did anyone here say it wasn’t worth discussion? No.
            Did anyone here imply that rape was okay? No.

            You seem to be caught up in thinking that anyone who doesn’t have the exact opinion you do is somehow saying rape is okay.

            Nobody said booting women out of the military was THE solution to the problem; it’s just one of them that worked for hundreds of years before this. What the hell are you doing besides insulting everyone who doesn’t share your exact view?

            Again, get over yourself.

            • Gonzobot January 26, 2010 at 6:56 pm

              Tony. Tony, Tony, Tony.

              YOU said my comments were worthless, when you called me a troll (Not in as many words, but your implication is clear).
              Fred implied that rape is a natural biological fact of being a male.
              He also said that women shouldn’t be in the military, in order to protect them from rape.
              I’m trying to have actual discussion, but by God some of you people are just too stupid to form simple logical conclusions, instead jumping on chances to change the subject from rape to me. I don’t like it, and you should stop; it doesn’t contribute to the discussion, and certainly doesn’t bother me.

      • Samantha January 26, 2010 at 1:06 pm

        Hey, I get it now, Gonzo is just trolling. He’s arguing with everyone to get a reaction because he likes the attention. Maybe if we ignore him he’ll go back under his bridge.

        • Gonzobot January 26, 2010 at 8:32 pm

          Maybe if you had an actual rebuttal to some of my good points, you wouldn’t have to resort to namecalling.

          • Samantha January 26, 2010 at 8:54 pm

            Calling someone a troll isn’t name-calling if they’re trolling.

            And I gave rebuttals until the reply button stopped showing up.

            • Gonzobot January 27, 2010 at 6:47 am

              Are you sure about that? Because all I know of you is that you’re defending feminism. This article isn’t about feminism, thus making you the troll, if I am not mistaken. Except for the part where you agree with me, just below here, you’re off-topic and calling names and generally being unpleasant – the subject is bad enough already, we don’t need to devolve into animals while talking about it.

              • Samantha January 27, 2010 at 8:42 am

                Who’s mentioning feminism here? I just defined it for you after you randomly bashed feminists in the comments above. And then I left the argument because yes, it was indeed getting off-topic because your comments were designed to make people angry.

    • Samantha January 26, 2010 at 1:15 pm

      “If they’re not protected, they get raped.”

      Then maybe the military needs to start protecting their own troops from being raped. Also, are you suggesting that men are biologically rapists? That they’re so immoral that if they can get away with raping someone, they will do it? No exceptions? I have a big problem with that. Raping someone is a choice, not an inevitability. The people doing it are choosing to do it, whether they are men or women, and saying a man will rape a woman out of biological differences is just a lame excuse.

    • GIkelliJo January 26, 2010 at 7:12 pm

      You have no clue. Women shouldn’t be in the military? We need to be protected? Those in the military can (for the most part) protect themselves, but faced with men like you who think that a woman in the military should be expected to be raped is insane. and no, it’s not a law of biology that put a man in a room with a woman and she will be raped. Have you ever studied anything of biology, Psychology, or Sociology especially focused on the relations between the sexes? I’m betting not. Trust me, I’m a married woman in the US military and for the last 9 years I’ve held my own and no one has needed to protect me, or my other female coworkers. Do do our jobs, we are held to the same standards as the men.

      You are in fact NOT observing facts; you are just misogynistic enough to think the hate you’re spewing is fact. I

      • dervish January 27, 2010 at 12:31 am

        Umm…sorry. But your not held to all the same standards. PT standards are drastically different.

  13. James January 26, 2010 at 10:01 am

    I have to agree with mr. obvious, for the most part. It isn’t pretty, but it’s human nature – and history has shown us this time and again. With most people, you can’t suspend just part of what makes them civilized, especially in a high-stress environment.

    Once you take away the societal restrictions on killing it’s pretty hard to maintain the ones about “bad touching.” Sex and violence are inextricably linked in the human psyche… once you let one loose, you’re gonna have to deal with the other somehow.

    I’d be willing to bet that the women in action are nearly as bad as the men in some regards, but they have less trouble finding willing partners so it doesn’t become a problem.

  14. Joe Green January 26, 2010 at 10:14 am

    One big difference between rape in the Civilian world and rape in the Military is that rape in the Military is 100% avoidable, just don’t sign up!
    What constitutes rape in the Military? If it is the same as the Civilian world then it is no surprise. The Military needs to pass regulations that sex is forbidden without written consent by both parties. The Military needs to decide that if 2 people are having sex, they must both be prosecuted for not having written consent. Of course, this will never happen because it would provide a record of consent and a record of just how many men a given woman is having sex with.

    • Samantha January 27, 2010 at 9:56 am

      “Hey, wanna do it?” “Sure, you got a condom and some permission slips?”


  15. Dude January 26, 2010 at 10:20 am

    Does this surprise anyone? Lonely guys in a war tend to get horny and if there are women around then *shock* they will end up being raped. Women should know this blatant reality so if they choose to join the military then they know exactly what kind of culture they are getting into. Its their fault and their fault alone if something happens to them, after all they could have been safe and secure at home

    • Morgan January 26, 2010 at 6:30 pm

      You are human filth.

      • Samantha January 27, 2010 at 8:45 am

        I thought he was being ironic. At least I hope he is…

    • Butch January 26, 2010 at 8:30 pm

      Dude is right.. I am a woman and I signed up for the war because I knew at one point or another I was going to have unexpected sexual relations. And you know what? It’s not so bad..


  16. John January 26, 2010 at 10:23 am

    The only things I don’t like about articles like this are: Should we believe everything we read?? There is so much Propaganda that is being spewed everywhere; how do we know this is true or not?? It ‘could’ be, but you don’t know for sure.

    • Anthony January 26, 2010 at 10:42 am


      • Samantha January 27, 2010 at 8:47 am

        Who knows what to believe anymore? One side is going out of their way to hide the problem, while the other side might or might not be exaggerating it to get it noticed…Seems to be a common theme in the news lately.

        • Menelaus January 27, 2010 at 11:24 am

          Wait a second Samantha. (pretending to be unbiased)

          It seems you’ve made up your mind here of one thing. The military is definitely hiding the problem but the other side might be exaggerating for attention?

          Hate men much?

          I didn’t see the military hiding anything. In fact the military has bent over backwards to keep women safe as denoted by the low casualty rate as compared to men.

          I don’t see ANY evidence in the above article that would lead any reasonable person to believe that 30% of women are being raped in the military OR that the military is trying to hide it.

  17. me January 26, 2010 at 10:41 am

    Easy fix…. women don’t need to be in the military

    • Menelaus January 26, 2010 at 10:47 pm

      Really? I think the opposite. You see 1.2 million men have been forced to die for this country. I think in the interest of equality we should start using some of that affirmative action that feminists are so fond of and start drafting women into the military until it’s 9 women to every 1 man. Then we’ll let them make the majority of casualties until the right the historical inequality of military service.

      And we’ll reserve those kick ass technical jobs for the men to ensure they stay out of harms way and can get high paying jobs in the civilian sector later on.

      • Gonzobot January 27, 2010 at 8:21 am

        I like the way you think…not that I expect it to happen anytime soon, but boy would it shut the feminists up! Equality my butt. I’ve never once in my life had a door held open for me by a pretty girl! But for some reason we’re expected to buy the drinks at the bar?

        • Samantha January 27, 2010 at 8:48 am

          I hold doors open for guys all the time. Can’t help it that I’m not pretty :p

      • Samantha January 27, 2010 at 8:51 am

        So you want to kill a bunch of women to equal out the amount of men who had to die? Lovely.

        • Menelaus January 27, 2010 at 11:27 am

          Why not? Feminists have been pursuing all kinds of laws that hurt men today based on past alleged inequities.

          We’re all equal sister.

          Right now men die 30 times as often as women in a warzone.

          Is that the “equal pay for equal work” you feminists were talking about?

          Funny how when men make up the majority of engineers women cry sexism, but when men make up the majority of war deaths women say that’s equality!

  18. Fabricio (Brazil) January 26, 2010 at 11:26 am

    Stop a little, you are all arguiing about that, there is nothing to argue about. Rape is not acceptable in any circustance, it should just be reported and the people involed on it condemnated if that is true or not if that is not true.
    Just get that fixed! Women are being raped, would you like your daughter to be raped in the army, which is supposed to protect the american citizen around the world? I bet not. Unite people and make that thing stop, for all the women that hear the call of the patriotism and get devastated by one of the worst crime man can make.

  19. g3nic January 26, 2010 at 11:34 am

    So wher the human rights are in situations like this.
    this world is full of ballshir! Shame to you US Army!

  20. WiseGuy1020 January 26, 2010 at 11:59 am

    Is it just me or is the woman on the right earing Special Forces insignia?

    • WiseGuy1020 January 26, 2010 at 11:59 am


      • Anonymous January 26, 2010 at 1:16 pm

        It isn’t just you… there are support positions in SF units.

    • Menelaus January 27, 2010 at 11:29 am

      That must be a sweet deal. Get a special forces tag without having to do the same training or get put out in the field where the danger is.

      There’s your “equal work for equal pay”.

  21. C.G January 26, 2010 at 12:10 pm

    I have a few friends that served diligently in the military for years. Spending time right after graduation in 2002 in the middle east. Afghanistan and Iraq mainly. I have heard from both of them on separate occasions some of the things women do in the military to dodge their duty. At the time my closest friend, a Sargent First Class, was in Iraq it was 2004. Women he was with in the military had enlisted around the same time he did, in high school before Sep. 11 and before we were at war. He speculates that they joined for the same reason most people do. Get some money, see the world, learn some things. Most people don’t enlist to go to war.

    When it came time to go to war, he claims that women would do some pretty crazy things to get back home. According to him, many women would have sex with other soldiers in an attempt to get pregnant. If they could get pregnant, they would get to come home and have an abortion, dodging the war. He also said in a lot of instances women would have sex with Iraqi men in an attempt to conceive.

    A lot of women will also cry rape to get medical leave, citing emotional distress. Now I’m not saying that all these women are lying, but I would guess, based on what I’ve been told, that a lot of these cases don’t hold much merit. As a man, I’ve seen the crazy things women will do over missing a phone call or saying something stupid. No doubt in my mind the lengths a woman would go to get out of 2+ years in the middle east.

    I feel for the women who were serving and were taken advantage of by slime ball men. To those who use false charges and ditch methods to come home – No sympathy for you.

    • Gonzobot January 26, 2010 at 8:30 pm

      I find it amazing that there are women who will lie about being raped to get out of the front lines, AND there are women who will screw anybody that is fertile to get pregnant to go back to the States for an abortion and get out of the front lines, AND there are women who have sexual relationships with their male counterparts with no ill effects whatsoever, AND there are women who claim to have been raped in order to get rid of somebody they don’t like, AND there are women who will be raped and then not tell anybody about it, AND there are women who will actually fight back against an attacker and see them brought to justice.

      Why all this disparity, I wonder?

      • Luna January 26, 2010 at 9:52 pm

        Why do some men prefer watching soccer, some men prefer soccer, some men prefer flirting in clubs, some men prefer to sit in front of a computer and type on keyboards?

        Same answer.

        • Gonzobot January 27, 2010 at 8:19 am

          I really don’t think you can call getting pregnant and aborting it for a ride home the same thing as watching soccer.

          • Samantha January 27, 2010 at 10:12 am

            I think she’s just saying that all women are different. That’s how I read it anyway.

            • Luna January 29, 2010 at 7:42 am

              Ditto. That’s what I meant.

      • C.G January 28, 2010 at 1:12 pm

        Not sure I understand your post.

        I feel for the women who were truly raped.

        However, it’s no secret that SOME women will conceive to tie a man down, or for financial purposes. This has been happening forever and if you believe that there aren’t any women in the military that would be willing to conceive a child or cry rape to come home, then I would think you are somewhat delusional. Many women are legitimately raped everyday, but on the flip side, there are many women today and in the past who have cried rape for financial payout. No doubt that what my friend told me is true in a lot of cases. He is not a liar, not an exaggerator, and really has no reason to make this thing up. So coming from a guy who saw it first hand, and a guy who has never been to war to see it, I’ll go with what my friend whom I’ve known for 15+ years and to my knowledge has never lied to me.

  22. James January 26, 2010 at 12:12 pm

    Why don’t these women, who the article mentions are armed to the teeth, kill their attackers in the act? I haven’t heard of any such incidents which it would seem would be as common as the rapes themselves. For every woman who was too scared to fight back, there would be one who opens fire as soon as a man upzips his pants.

    • Gonzobot January 26, 2010 at 1:27 pm

      Exactly. How many of these can actually be rapes, considering the parties involved are TRAINED KILLERS? These women absolutely have the ability to defend themselves, and the confidence to use these abilities. That is why they are on the force serving their country.

      • Wyo January 26, 2010 at 2:32 pm

        Granted, the women (who were actually raped) are indeed trained killers, god help the fat drunk man in the bar who can’t take no for an answer, but these female warriors are up against bigger and more powerful opponents, so unless they’ve got some crazy moves up their sleeves, they’re not going to be very effective against their just-as-well-trained, stronger collegues.

        • Gonzobot January 26, 2010 at 8:27 pm

          You mean to say that a woman in close proximity to an unwanted man for an extended period of time (assuming several minutes at least) is completely unable to leave any kind of marks whatsoever on her attacker? And that this woman is simultaneously a trained combatant, capable of taking life on command?

          I doubt it.

          • Wyo January 28, 2010 at 5:39 am

            No, if you would read my post again ( and actually READ it) you would see that I said that these women “are not going to be very effective against their just-as-well-trained, stronger collegues.” It’s obvious that you’re sitting there, thinking up a variety of rhetorical devices to use in order to twist the meaning of people’s opinons and statements. Maybe some of the ones who were “raped” weren’t actually raped *duh!* Maybe the man snuck up behind them and put a knife to their throat and threatened to kill them if they fought and they felt rape was better than potential death. Who knows, unless you were there you can’t. You’re making it sound like all these “rape” victims come out of it without a scratch, but in fact a in some of these cases the women do infact come out battered and some may be so timid that they don’t fight much. That’s why we have rape kits, to help verify the truth of what the women may or may not be saying.

        • Menelaus January 26, 2010 at 10:55 pm

          Really? So these guys are so awesome and deadly powerful then where are the numbers of women being murdered by them?

          There’s only been a few hundred female deaths. Surely some of those were rape victims. Don’t you think we would have heard about all these women being hospitalized while trying to fend off a rape?

          • Fabricio (Brazil) January 27, 2010 at 1:28 am

            Folks, how do y ou question a person that was raped “why she could not defend herself since she is a trained military?” ?? If they report a rape that just must be verified, nothing else! Don’t fool yourself, no one of you was there and you just can’t assume anything. Jesus it even seems you are defending that everyone should know what to do in a rape attempt! this is kinda ridiculous, most woman would probably panic, trained or not, no one is ready to react to things like that. Again, would you like your daughter to go through something like this? If the answer is no then I am sure you would not do the same question you are doing right here to her.

            • Gonzobot January 27, 2010 at 8:18 am

              Soldiers are ABSOLUTELY ready for anything. That is why they are soldiers and we are not!

              I’m not trying to say that they were wrong for being raped – I’m trying to say that far too often, rape is falsely reported for numerous reasons. Anytime there is a false accusation, with no evidence of rape whatsoever, then questions need to be asked – like how could a female soldier, trained in combat, be unable to leave any identifying marks on her alleged rapist?

              Were my daughter in the military, I would trust that her training would be enough to protect her from ANY kind of close-combat assailant, no matter if it is in her bunk at midnight or in a bunker in a firefight. But then again, my daughter isn’t a stupid kid – she’d know how to handle herself in these situations (probably by not enlisting in the first place).

            • Menelaus January 27, 2010 at 11:32 am

              I hear it time and again that rape is the most horrible crime that can be committed against a woman.

              But according to you it’s not so horrible that your first inclination would be to fight?

              Especially since she’s been military trained and also trained to fend of a sexual assault?

          • Wyo January 28, 2010 at 5:47 am

            Where did murder come into this? I thought we were talking about rape? If rape and murder always accociated how do we ever have rape victims to complain? Why don’t their attackers just murder them all to keep them from talking? I’m sorry the fact is that on average, men are more powerful then women. Sure get a couch potato of a man up against a hardened athelete of a woman and she may kick his butt, but take a man and woman and put them through the same traing (acutally military training between the two sexes is different, it’s more laxed on the women) and see who comes out stronger it’s going to be the man. Women are built to carry and nuture children, which is why they store fat easily, men are built to defend their offspring and compete with other men for the right to mate, purely biologically speaking. Look at every other mammal, the male is bigger and stronger. I’m not saying women are not effective members of the military but purely physically speaking, men have superior strength and yes, a well trained man can over power a well trained woman, especially if he has surprise on his side. for the second part of your statement, see above. In addition to the previous statement it also sounds like the army is trying to keep the news of rape on the down low, for morale. Besides, why would we hear of every hospitalization of rape victims? If I were raped I wouldn’t want the whole world knowing, not to mention my medical records are supposedly private from the public.

    • Menelaus January 26, 2010 at 10:53 pm

      You make a very good point. You’d think they could at least do some damage to a guy. Surely they had to go through hand to hand combat? Why aren’t we giving accompanying information on men injured by women during the commission of a rape?

      The military specifically trains women on how to avoid and fend off a rape. It’s mandatory training so either these women are lousy soldiers or their lying. (or both)

      Just sayin’.

  23. Juan Gatito January 26, 2010 at 1:43 pm

    y ese es su pinche ejercito glorioso???
    ese es el pais de las libertades???

    gringos de mierda

  24. Dillinger January 26, 2010 at 1:43 pm

    Out of all the rape cases I have seen (5 in 4 years). All were admitted later by the females to be false. The men were punished for nothing and the females got sent to mental health for a vacation from work.

    • Morgan January 26, 2010 at 6:29 pm

      Anecdotal evidence is not evidence. Five cases is not evidence.

      • Gonzobot January 26, 2010 at 6:59 pm

        Then where is the evidence? Oh, right, a significant number of reported rapes have no evidence whatsoever! Meaning they can’t be considered rapes, and nobody will be punished for it. The word of one person is not enough to convict and brand another person a rapist, and for a damn good reason.

        • Fabricio (Brazil) January 27, 2010 at 1:34 am

          Man, no one is saying people should just be locked up for things like that. WHat the news is trying to do is open everyone eyes to the fact that there are rapes in the US Army! If that is the case, then this must be verified. THe Army just should not accept a raper in its midsts. This should have a severe punishment. OF course there must be evidence, without it there is no justice. Again, if it happens with your daughter would you not want it to have the justice system working to find out the true and punish the responsibles? If the answer is yes, then the same applies to what it is being said here. THe woman that lies on that should be prossecuted accordingly as well.

      • Menelaus January 26, 2010 at 10:57 pm

        This entire article cites anecdotal evidence. Not one link or reference to any actual study or researcher or institution.

        • Samantha January 27, 2010 at 8:57 am

          I think the point of the article is that the army is covering up the incidents, thus, all they have is anecdotal evidence. And if that’s true, then some people are going to have a lot to answer for. And if it’s false women are going to lose credibility. It’s not that I hope this is true, I just hope they aren’t lying about something like this. If this article is true, and the army is covering up rapes…do we really want those people to be the ones protecting us?

          • Menelaus January 27, 2010 at 11:35 am

            They cited studies. That’s not anecdotal evidence and yet they aren’t giving us a link to those studies.

            The 30% study came from 2003 and nothing has been done. Do you know why?

            From what I hear that 30% is not from the total number of women in the military, but from those women seeking treatment for PTSD. That’s a far smaller number isn’t it but the above man-hating article doesn’t want us to know that. They want to portray the numbers much higher so we believe that all those women are being raped.

            It’s bull. And the fact that you bought into right off the bat only proves that you hate men.

  25. Rhawk187 January 26, 2010 at 1:56 pm

    While we are here and talking about the whole Franken Bill, can someone remind me why it is again that he thinks you should be able to sue your employer if you are assaulted instead of strictly going after your attacker? I don’t see how it is any of their responsibility.

    • Gonzobot January 26, 2010 at 7:02 pm

      The issue was that whats-her-name was under contract with KBR, and the contract included clauses that basically meant she could not attempt to prosecute or lay criminal charges for things that happened to her by other employees. When she was raped by other contracted workers, and attempted to get some justice, they tried to deny her access to a trial, both overseas and here in the States, using all the measures available to a corporation hired to murder by a government with unlimited ‘defense’ spending. Hence the new ruling.

      Somebody will jump in with actual facts and such, but that’s my understanding of the situation.

  26. Honey January 26, 2010 at 2:05 pm

    Hummmm some of the comments here lead me to believe that there is an easier solution than women not serving. Since the big, brawny, lonely men can’t seem to be able to control themselves after all that agressive training, and having to deal with “human nature” as one poster called it …we should come up with ways to physically prevent sex while on active duty. Maybe an electrical shock device that must be worn, maybe a kind of brace under the uniform that has to be removed by a superior officer…perhaps a reversable surgical procedure or a medication that renders men impotent while on active duty. Problem solved, no false charges….or women trying to get pregnant to get out of serving…..everyone can serve together without fear of being attacked on accused….Yeah.

  27. anon January 26, 2010 at 2:17 pm

    Being former military, I will agree that men have the capacity to do terrible things. One of my best friends was a corpsman who told me numerous stories….even of men gang raping other men.

    But I also, I heard numerous tales of “young” women conducting themselves in anyway possible to avoid responsibilities. A common issue I observed, often “young” women would make decisions based on emotions they had at a given time….then regretting it later…would try to reverse logic their decisions which resulted in accusations of sexual misconduct.

    Another interesting point…Of the 200 plus men that I was in charge of over my career…the percentage of problems to gender type and number was staggering when it came to women as compared to men. But on that same note, I served with some mature women who were both professional and tougher than a lot of men.

    To me the article also sheds a light on the issue of acceptable sexual behavior in our society and how the military population correlates to a sampling of the very young of our population. Then consider, your putting these young men and women together in their sexual peak of their lives, then putting them in a situation where they are forbidden to act on natural instincts…then mix in Fear, Anxiety, and Aggression. Whoa, what a mess to deal with….

    My suggestion, research your history on how armies in the past solved this problem.

    • Poobah January 26, 2010 at 6:16 pm

      College date rape stats are similar.

      I did twenty and am only aware of one verified rape. In every other case it was a case of infidelity.

      So what is a woman to say that gets pregnant on a ship (or combat zone) – that they violated military law?

      • Menelaus January 26, 2010 at 11:01 pm

        Exactly. The military has a no-sex policy and when two people are found out guess which one cries rape to avoid punishment?

  28. Joe January 26, 2010 at 2:50 pm

    How many women did they ask? Where did they get their sample pool from? 1 in 3 is huge, hard to believe huge and they just expect us to swallow that number.

    I’m not arguing anything about whether rape is right or not, but if they want people to take it seriously put some facts in there instead of just a bunch of ‘one survey says’ when they’re all different surveys.

    Sexual Harrasment != Rape != Sexual Assault, but they intermingle those words everywhere just to get these high 90% numbers and make people go OMFG!

    • Menelaus January 26, 2010 at 11:04 pm

      I saw the same thing.

      And the standard they use for sexual harassment is so broad as to include any type of advance from a man.

      Man whistles? –sexual harassment.
      Man asks female to coffee after she’s off duty? –sexual harassment.

      Don’t get me wrong. If women don’t want men to hit on them then I’m all for it. but they are going to have to start wearing a sign that says so because we don’t read minds.

      • Gonzobot January 27, 2010 at 7:43 am

        /agree! Women are crazy when it comes to expectations for men. I can’t count the number of times I’ve been yelled at for something that I never did because I never knew I was supposed to! The standards that we are expected to uphold are biologically impossible, and yet somehow we can still be at fault for it, because not immediately knowing what she wanted you to know while she says something completely different is a “sleep on the couch” punishable offense!

        Thank god for the bar, I guess.

        • Samantha January 27, 2010 at 9:11 am

          Please stop randomly bashing women! It has nothing to do with this article! Kthx.

          • Menelaus January 27, 2010 at 11:39 am

            It has everything to do with this article.

            This article is just another propaganda hate screed against men and we’re getting fed up with it.

            You women have no accountability for your actions and you blame men for everything.

            Today 85% of divorces are filed by women and the divorce rate is 60% and climbing.

            Ask a woman who’s fault it is she’ll either say it’s no one’s fault or it’s men’s fault.

    • Samantha January 27, 2010 at 9:26 am

      Yeah, I think they combined the stats to make sure a lot of attention was drawn to the problem. Not the smartest move ever. But if they’re telling the truth about the army covering up incidences…just the thought of that scares me.

      I don’t think anonymous surveys are the way to go for this anyway, if this is as major of a problem as they say it is, there needs to be some sort of investigation. You know that saying, 75% of statistics are made up on the spot?

  29. Ken January 26, 2010 at 3:13 pm

    How dare any US soldier act so dishonorably! The citizen soldier is meant to represent the best of our country, but instead, all I see here is shame and degradation… What happened to the good-hearted souls that took the oath to serve and protect the American way? If our fore-fathers could see us now…

  30. Lauren January 26, 2010 at 3:20 pm

    This was quite sickening to read. I can understand that, as written above, with all their rigorous training, they can become quite ‘charged’ and filled with testosterone, in turn making them quite dominant and aggressive. (I am by no means suggesting that ALL or even MOST men are like this) But you get the impression that these are men of uniform, their first priority is serving they’re country, that they’re disciplined. Despite the feminist revolution, I don’t think the military will really be ‘equal’ until there are is a hefty share of women in various roles in the scale of power.

  31. Jonah January 26, 2010 at 3:25 pm

    The real problem is the bunch of spineless men we’ve raised in America, seriously I’ve never seen a generation of wimps like we have today. They can’t beat a bunch of shepherds in rags so they take it out on our brave women. As a nation we need to get back to basics, Bush lied, Obama lies, we’re not an all powerful nation like keep telling us, these silly foreign adventures need to stop, bring the troops home and use them to to protect our borders.

  32. RJ January 26, 2010 at 4:30 pm

    I don’t understand how this is shocking to anyone. The essence of military action is to kill, something that violates a very basic rule of every religion and code of human conduct that has existed since mankind began living in societies. When taught to suppress this value, how can you expect other moral imperatives to remain intact? The worst part about this scenario is that raping female GI’s is somehow worse than wanton killing and raping of foreign populations, or at least deserves more outrage. You can’t create a warrior culture of men who have been taught to accept death and on the other hand expect them to act in a reserved, wholesome, moral manner.

  33. Guy Blaise January 26, 2010 at 4:54 pm

    Castration of male soldiers is the solution. God bless America!

    • Poobah January 26, 2010 at 6:10 pm

      A college survey conducted by the National Victim Center reported that one in four college women have been raped or suffered attempted rape (Bureau of Justice, 1992). In another college survey, half of the college men reported that they engaged in some form of sexual aggression on a date (Bureau of Justice, 1995).

      College is a very dangerous place indeed….

      • Gonzobot January 27, 2010 at 7:37 am

        There is a pretty important and significant difference between rape and aggressive sex. You really shouldn’t attempt to lump those stats together for dramatic effect, because you’re implying that college girls are weak victims while college boys are rapists.

  34. prisonxgitmo January 26, 2010 at 5:08 pm

    Is this why women who enter the military are often described as ‘corp whores’?

  35. annonymous January 26, 2010 at 5:55 pm

    It’s not just the US military. The Canadian one is just as bad. I am a female who served for 6 years and myself and all the other females endured continuous sexual harassment and worse for some. They make it out so that if you ever do anything about it, the degradation and torment you would suffer would be far worse than what is already taking place.

    • Gonzobot January 26, 2010 at 7:06 pm

      So…making it stop because of a threat of more is enough to make you endure more anyways? Your logic is ridiculous, and your actions questionable. If you were being harassed, then why didn’t you report it? Isn’t it part of your duty to ensure your country is being defended by people who can be trusted with the job?

      Being afraid of being harassed is not an acceptable excuse for allowing harassment to continue, and shame on you for thinking in that way! We teach our children better than this, with school bullies, before the age of ten!

      • GIkelliJo January 26, 2010 at 7:25 pm

        Try being in our position first. It’s horrendous that a woman would get raped by someone in her unit…It’s worse to know that once you tell someone, every man in the unit is going to think you’ll cry rape any time someone talks to you. OR, the friends and bosses of the rapist will harass you and make it difficult for you to continue on at your job. Remember, we sign contracts and are usually in a unit for 2-3 years before moving to another.

        2 years is entirely too long to sit around and get harassed because you did the right thing…called the police, didn’t shower…had all evidence…and still YOU’RE the one who gets continuously harassed. As sad as it is, it sometimes just seems not worth it for fear of retribution. It’s how it is and it’s not right.

        I had an audio recording of being sexually harassed, took it to my superior and was told “Suck it up. You’re a woman fixing airplanes. You need to have a tougher skin than that.” Tougher skin? on the recording I was told to bend over and take it by my BOSS…and be a good little girl and suck on ‘it.’

        I tried to do the right thing…and look where that got me. If a woman was raped, how should she feel safe to tell her chain of command? it’s the reality of the situation, and it needs to be addressed.

        • Gonzobot January 26, 2010 at 8:24 pm

          If you were actually in the service, then you would have been taught a little thing called ‘chain of command’. That’s where every boss has his own boss to keep them in line and keep them supplied with orders.

          YOU did exactly the wrong thing by attempting to report a sexual harassment issue, then dropping it at your boss’ suggestion. You and your ilk are the reason why this statistic exists!

          You cannot be afraid of ‘harassment’ by your unit. If they are harassing you, guess what? FIX THE DAMN PROBLEM INSTEAD OF WHINING ABOUT IT!

          Your superior that told you to suck it up because you are a woman? HARASSMENT. He should have been reported for that, but you didn’t do it did you? Why not? Afraid that people would consider you a snitch? If you’re scared of that, then why are you in the military to begin with?

          • Fabricio (Brazil) January 27, 2010 at 1:47 am

            I am sure it must have been difficult, but think again why didn’t you chose to do the right thing. Because of your behavior and mostly other woman behavior which probably are the same as yours, that is why all woman will always be harassed. It is very simple, you choose not to say anything when harassed, then why would anyone stop harassing you? There is no fix for this if you do not take a stan. I am sure there are regulations in the army for that kind of thing, and your boss/superior must abide by that, he has no choice, so just push it and make sure no one does that against you again.

    • Menelaus January 26, 2010 at 11:09 pm

      If you’re afraid of harassment I wonder what you will do if an actual war breaks out.

      Guess what sister? You are being treated equally. Harassment is as harassment does.

      Men harass each other all the time. It’s how we test the mettle of the men we are forced to rely on . Men who can’t hack it are singled out.

      Guess what? You got singled out.

      • Fabricio (Brazil) January 27, 2010 at 2:29 am

        You are really messed up man, if this isn’t right, then it isn’t right. Your attitude is exactly why that kind of thing continues, and I am sure you can’t see it.
        THink about it, you can mess with other people, but threathning them is another thing. EVeryone is resposible for their words and actions so act according to how you want to be treated or be framed. JUstive must be for everyone. And, harassing a woman is not a way to mettle anyone, you certainly don’t want a man to bend over to you, ro do you? GEt some brain and become a real man, then we can talk again.

        • Gonzobot January 27, 2010 at 7:35 am

          When you call your fellow man a faggot, it is not always because you want him in your bed. When you grab a woman’s ass, it can be reasonably assumed that you’re trying to get in her pants.

          But this distinction is incredibly difficult to make, especially in a stressful climate like shared bunks in a war zone; this is why there are harassment laws to begin with. ANY person being in the military should expect ‘friendly coworker’ style abuse – it is part of the culture. But when somebody is repeatedly harassed, and feels unsafe at their workplace, then there is an issue. The problem is most military folk don’t have the ability to see that invisible line, or the restraint to stay off it when they are told to stop.

  36. 5nDive January 26, 2010 at 6:49 pm

    These stats are very grossly exaggerated. I was in the Military and left because I didn’t like it. And even though I have a certain distain for the branch I was in, I can contest that none of my woman colleagues were ever raped. So please, before you make any harsh criticisms about the men and women that give their lives so you could sleep soundly, experience it for yourselves and see if this article has much truth to it. I’m not saying it doesn’t happen, but definitely not as often as these articles suggest. The only rape i’ve heard of in 9 years was that at USAFA. Even that had a lot more to the story than made it to the press. I was in the Squadron it happened in.

    And as for the punishment being lenient, thats completely false. Every singe person that even verbally assaults another will be court marshaled. I know, I’ve had to deal with people being court marshaled because verbal assault.

  37. john freeman January 26, 2010 at 7:00 pm

    I served in the 60’s, as a drill sgt. The intention basic of basic training was to take the ‘rainbows’ from being human to some thing that would blow you away in a heartbest, or quicker. Mind you, in 8 weeks we were able to train just enough to get them killed..When friends of mine came back from Nam with photos of the strings of ears they’d hung on their rucks, it was pretty obvious to me that the officers were either not doing their job….or that is the result they were after. (best look to the supervision as to the incidence of rape, eh?) In those days, at least some of us were drafted, anybody who thinks a Volunteer army is composed of the brightest and the best has their heads up and locked. Yeh….my born-again Christian Nephew is a Marine….and no matter how much I liked him when he was young…he is now a mess. As far as rape goes, prisons are supposidly the most controlled environment in existance….there are no women, but drugs and rape are part of the experience. Unfortunately, it seems that in some situations, rape is the recreation of choice…..which of course is a serious breakdown of our society and culture. As is War.

    Veteran ’66-68

  38. frank January 26, 2010 at 7:03 pm

    i am ex army and i think the military is a joke now,too bad.

  39. Cobra Commander January 26, 2010 at 7:38 pm

    That is what they get for dressing like that!

    • Fabricio (Brazil) January 27, 2010 at 2:45 am

      I hope you get raped for “dressing like that” and then ask for help. THat will be great for you. I bet you would learn a lot.

    • Gonzobot January 27, 2010 at 7:29 am

      They all dress the same, numbnuts. It is called a UNIFORM.

  40. Jordan January 26, 2010 at 8:14 pm

    These stats are complete BS. There is no way that rape is so prevelant in the military.

    I am an Officer involved assigned in the military’s legal system, and I can assure you that rape accusations are taken very seriously, and investigated thoroughly, and prosecuted when appropriate.

    I have never seen anything or spoken to anyone that would support the absurdly high purported numbers of rapes and sexual assaults in the military. BS.

  41. overseas January 26, 2010 at 8:29 pm

    I am not an American but i used to admire the US army for its professionalism..however now I am disgusted…how can any soldier turn upon their own comrades and commit such a heinous crime? I think these kind of people should be classified as traitors.
    And for all those people who support rape..i think they should be raped and then asked how they feel about it

  42. Sammy January 26, 2010 at 8:42 pm

    The terms used in the survey are very different. Raped, sexually assaulted and raped, sexually harassed. All mean different things. It seems these are deliberately combined to jack up the percentage.
    From 1995 till now if 90% of the women are victimized, it should reflect somewhere in the society even if not complained officially. Has the number of female recruits gone down? Certainly the victims would not like other women to experience the same plight as theirs.

  43. Menelaus January 26, 2010 at 10:10 pm

    I’ve read the article and the links however I do not see any study or survey cited by name. No links to these alleged studies or to the researchers or the number of persons polled.

    Awhile back the feminists said that Super Bowl Sunday was the day of the year most women are beaten. It was a lie.

    At one time they said 4 million women are beaten to death every year. Another lie.

    Awhile back the feminists said that girls were falling farther and farther behind boys in school. They passed Title IX that year. Later that year a report from the Department of Education was released which revealed that boys were falling behind girls in 29 of 34 academic categories. That trend continues. Feminists lied.

    Why do you people believe everything you read without ever questioning the source it came from?

    For the record feminism is about hatred of men. You cannot motivate a political movement on the scapegoating of an entire gender without hating them.

    Hitler blamed the Jews. Feminists blame men.

  44. Dave January 26, 2010 at 10:27 pm

    That is unbelievable.

  45. Josh January 26, 2010 at 11:24 pm

    So if I said that a 2004 study found that 80% of women who claim to be raped are not telling the truth would you believe me? How about if I claimed that the studies referenced in this article also found that 47% of military men were raped by gangs of two women or more? would you believe that?

    Of course not. Throwing out random numbers without giving a single source as to where those numbers came from does not a newsworthy article make …

    I cannot comment on whether this article is true or not, if it is that would be horrible, but is it really so hard to at least tell us the source of studies? I don’t know about the rest of the people here, but I am not the kind of person that blindly believes everything you write without having the ability to independently fact check what you are saying …

    • Menelaus January 27, 2010 at 11:47 am

      I’d believe that 2004 study because it’s likely true. There are a lot of studies out there which cite a 65% false accusation rate. Others cite 40% but that number is only based on those women who admitted they were lying and doesn’t include those cases where the lie was discovered in the investigation or in court or where the man was convicted anyway.

      Seems like every day another man is being proven innocent thank to DNA. Recently a man was released after serving 35 years for a false accusation.

      And the thing that bothers me most is that these false accusers are never punished. That and also rape activists aren’t trying to punish them either. Why wouldn’t you want to punish women who lie about rape since it makes it harder for other rape victims to be believed?

      I’ll tell you why. Because rape activism is more about hating men and trying to hurt them than it is about stopping or preventing rape.

  46. Martian January 26, 2010 at 11:36 pm

    Look, if women want to fight they need to man-up. Geez, it’s a tough life being a soldier and most soldiers are not exactly coddled into a bunch of feel-good nice-guy dweebs. We are trained to kill. We live another day and have a little pleasure along the way. Has it ever been any different?

  47. Sandy January 26, 2010 at 11:57 pm

    Its very shameful for the military people to humiliate women like this. There should be strict laws enforced on those who have been found guilty on such acts, which would reduce such incidents.

  48. Hosting January 27, 2010 at 1:47 am

    I don’t this Whole Military Womens Raped. can’t belive this.

  49. marsha phoenicia January 27, 2010 at 3:25 am

    “and ruptured her breast implants”? That says it all, I think.

    marsha phoenicia

    • Menelaus January 27, 2010 at 11:49 am

      What does it say? That she mutilated her body to become a sex object?

      • Morgan January 27, 2010 at 6:57 pm

        You are scum.

  50. Goldfinger January 27, 2010 at 4:07 am

    What about all the lonely GI’s who sit in remote fox-holes who do each other all the while thinking they are serving their country with honor, killing woman, children ?

    • troylesscount February 3, 2010 at 3:30 pm

      you’re disgusting. you should join the afghan army where you belong.

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